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Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
For those with generator issues the new 4k  Onan inverter generator with fuel injection will begin deliveries April 1, 2024
The original note didn’t copy very well but I pasted it below.

For Cummins gasoline/ LP generators built BEFORE December 31, 2023 1) All Cummins Gasoline/LP generators built by Cummins prior to December 31, 2023, are exempt from
new CARB 2024 emission requirements. a. Only the Cummins generator build date is critical for compliance to CARB 2024, not the
OEM manufactured /use or sale date.
1. 2023 built generators can be sold in California through all of 2024 and beyond. 2) After January 1, 2024, all Cummins Generators shipped loose or shipped installed in vehicles to
California must be reported to Cummins - Regardless of build date.
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Any 2023 built generators can still be used in 2024. California shipments just must be reported.
i. This data will be collected quarterly.
For Cummins gasoline/LP generators built AFTER December 31, 2023
KY - 4kW Gasoline & 3.6k W LP
4kW Gasoline - 49 state only, not able to be certified in California.
3.6 LP - 50 state legal - California shipments must be reported, (Available starting January 1, 2024)
New HGLBA - Onan 4000i Available starting April 2024
4kW Gasoline - 50 State model - Legal for sale in California (Available starting April 2024)
Current HGLAA (2.8kW Gasoline - 2.5 kW LP)
2.8 Gas (A063N528) - 49 state only - Not able to be sold in California.
2.8 Gas EVAP (A063N928) - 49 state only - Not able to be sold in California.
2.5 LP (A063N930) - 49 states only - Not able to be sold in California.
NEW HGLAA 2.8kW Gasoline - 2.5kW LP (Available February 2024)
2.8 Gas (AXXXXXX) - 50 State model - Legal for sale in California. (Available starting Feb. 2024)
2.8 Gas EVAP(AXXXXXXX) -50 State model - Legal for sale in California. (Available starting Feb. 2024)
2.5 LP (AXXXXXXX) - 50 State model - Legal for sale in California. (Available starting February 2024)
RV- HGJAB (5.5 - 6.5 - 7kW) & Commercial Mobile (CM) - HGJAE (5.5 - 6.5 - 7kW)
Gasoline
5.5kW & 7kW - 49 State only - Not able to be sold in California
LP
2024)
5.5kW & 6.5kW - 50 state legal - California shipments must be reported. (Available starting January 1.
RV - HGJAA (EFI) 5.5 & 7kW Gasoline & CM - HGJAD (EFI) 5.5 & 7kW Gasoline
Current models -5.5 & 7kW HGJAA & HGJAD EFI - 49 State - Not able to be sold in California.
NEW LOW CO HGJAA & HGJAD (EFD) 5.5kW & 7kW - Available April 2024
Harry 2006RB
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #1 –
All I can say is it is about time. Small motorcycles and ATVs have had fuel injection for years.
The inverter upgrade should mean quiet operation when loads are low, engine RPMs are directly proportional to the power needs.
Amazing that neither Honda nor Yamaha ever designed a 4000-watt RV generator.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #2 –
Hi Larry;  Honda did make one.  TELE-LITE's Honda EV4010 RV Generator   but the extra concern about freezing in subzero weather and antifreeze coolant was an issue.
     They are still available, but lo-tech.  Made in about 1998.   HONDA EV 4010 RV GENERATOR | eBay  .
      There is no reason except cost that they couldn't be much quieter, catalytic converted, computer controlled and fuel injected. With electronic inverter technology the gasoline usage could be much less for small loads too.  The extra sound absorption of liquid cooling manifolds and newer muffler technology would benefit the sound levels and exhaust smells associated with RV generators.  While they still wouldn't be welcome in some RV parks, they would have been more tolerable.  In 24 years I've got about 130 hours on my generator.  Mostly used for maintenance runs, the only need was to run the air conditioner in very hot weather. (usually 100+ temps).  RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #3 –
I remember when they first came out. I guess Honda sold the design. They were made for ambulances. When I went to buy one Honda had pulled it off the market. Too large and too heavy to make it in the RV world, I guess. No RV builders picked it up. Had no idea they were still available. I liked the water cooling.

When I get my hands on the new one I’ll install it. My KY is dead. Probably be tough to get hold of one but when I get one installed I’ll let you know.

Presently using a Honda 2200i. Certainly not as convenient.
Harry 2006RB
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #4 –
Hi Harry;   Your KY should be about 178 #.  The Honda 4010 is at 202 # is just 24 pounds more.  But pretty old technology.  An inverter type genset would be quieter most of the time, and should be lighter than the KY or Honda. 
RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #5 –
I’m looking forward to getting my hands on the new one. I bet it won’t be easy. Be lucky to have it by summer.
Harry 2006RB
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #6 –
Another advantage of inverter-type generators is clean, well-regulated power. Power from any of the Onan generators is "dirty"--when viewed on an oscilloscope, it shows ragged spikes instead of a smooth sine wave; and line frequency varies depending upon engine RPM, instead of staying at a constant 60 Hz. Neither of these characteristics is great for a lot of appliances, especially ones with a lot of electronics.

As Larry said, it's about time!
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #7 –
Has anyone encountered one of these in the wild yet?
2013 27’ Mid-Bath
2005 Honda CR-V
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #8 –
Nope. They still are not shipping.
Harry 2006RB
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #9 –
Quote from: hbn7hj  - 
Nope. They still are not shipping.

And when they finally become available, the OEMs will likely get them first.
They will probably become available right before an inverter A/C shows up.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #10 –
Quote from: Keith S  - 
Has anyone encountered one of these in the wild yet?

I can't comment on which brand but  I was at Sonoma Race Way camping with a bunch of RVers in June.  A new 5th Wheel near us had a super quiet low RPM gen up front as I heard it.  Was amazed as it sounded like my EU3000 Honda or even more quiet as it was in a compartment.  When I asked the owner he did not really know much about it, didn't offer to open the lid so I kept on my way but knew it had to be one of these types.

$4300
Cummins Onan A073X541 Cummins RV QG 4000i HGLBA - 4KYFA-26100 - 4.0kW EFI RV...

Appears to be about the same foot print as the 4KY models.  This place say factory direct in 3-4 weeks if you can believe that.

Ramon
2000 Mid-Bath
2012 Lance 830 Truck Camper/2006 Cummins Dodge Ram Megacab
1985 Multi Plan - Donated to the American Breast Cancer Foundation.
Re: Onan HGLBA 4kw inverter generator to ship April 1, 2024
Reply #11 –
Onan is no where near shipping to individuals. I have a friend that is an Onan dealer. He has had the order in for sometime. I do believe we will be one of the first to receive one. There is no reason to think we will be able to beat the OEM obligations.

When he last called two months ago they hadn’t even started production.

I will post when and if I get delivery. The online vendors saying 3 week delivery are blowing smoke. Those shipments are factory direct and the factory is not shipping. The vendors are not lying, they are repeating what they are told. The original ship date was April 12.
Harry 2006RB