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Secret factory options list...
OK folks, after speaking with Todd and finding out that on a 31 IB the slide out dinette can be substituted for the standard barrel chairs and table I began to wonder what other secret factory options were available. Of course, there is the published list that includes leather seats, heated mirrors, etc. but I am interested in a comprehensive list of unknown options.

Besides swapping barrel chairs for the dinette and adding extra power hookups what other choices do we have? I have also heard about internal reinforcements for aftermarket awnings also. Please share your knowledge. Thank you.
Chet in Yorktown, Virginia
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Reply #1 –
Chet, the Lazy Daze website shows the IB with the barrel chairs standard. The TB has the dinette. I would think you could swap out the dinette and barrel chairs for either model but what do I know?

Not sure about other secret options available.

Lazy Daze - Floor Plans

http://www.lazydaze.com/custopt.htm
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
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Reply #2 –
Not many secrets with LD, what you see is what you get.
Daughter of the first Lazy Bones
Hitting the road on my own and with a friend 🚐 while reporting back to the Lazy Bones at home 🛋

2 Lazy Bones - Home
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After some "discussion," we were able to convince Todd to put a fold up table in the back of our 2015 MB like the ones in the TKs. It's down during the day and folds up against the rear window at night when we make the bed. Seats 6 friendly people with the extension provided. Best thing ever. Makes it possible to eat in the back with the beautiful views around us, gives us 2 separate work stations, and provides the banquette table as a kitchen workspace while cooking. No MB should be without it. I think it cost about $250 including the extension, extra blocking required and the little storage niche for the extension.  May now be a standard option, not part of the "secret list."
Silver Fox
2015 MB
2015 MB
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Hi Silver Fox. I have a '99 TK and of course that rear table is the dinette. Our first choice would have been the MB, but our driveway is barely long enough to fit the TK. San Diego now prohibits storage on the street. In 2017 we bought a used 2001 MB for some friends, and I insisted on adding a fold up table. I added their closet stored table, hinged and it folds up. Only 24" wide, instead of the TK 36" wide. I did install some bracing in the back wall, and covered the hole with the 'hinge support block'. I think the factory should make it standard. Pull pins for the hinges would allow it to be stored in the closet, similar to the TK's extension.   RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
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Reply #5 –
That's exactly my point - there is no literature that says this is an option but it looked like an easy swap to me. But as we all know sometimes easy changes are not accepted at LD for reasons unknown. After talking with Todd he said this was an option and acted like it was not a big deal at all. I am just curious what other options exist that may be unpublished.

Quote from: HiLola  - 
Chet, the Lazy Daze website shows the IB with the barrel chairs standard. The TB has the dinette. I would think you could swap out the dinette and barrel chairs for either model but what do I know?
Chet in Yorktown, Virginia
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Reply #6 –
"I am just curious what other options exist that may be unpublished."
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If you have specific "options" in mind, present the request and see what shakes out; AFAIK, there is no secret option list, and I doubt that anyone would get very far with a request to browse a general "hidden menu". Each model is different, but if a requested option/change requires modifying the actual build, don't expect that to happen.

I know that LD has agreed to doing some modifications, e.g., wiring, reinforcement, etc., but, again AFAIK, the owners who requested these changes knew just what they wanted, why they wanted it, and probably even suggested ways to make what they wanted happen.

YMMV, as always.
2003 TK has a new home
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Reply #7 –
The only 'secret' options are little things that do not cause the Factory any extra design work, major coach modifications or require much of Steve's or Vince's time to make sure the change is done right.
Steve allowed us one and only one change when we ordered our LD, the change was moving the one solar panel to a non-standard place so the cross bars, used to carry our carry our sea kayaks would fit. It was a big deal to them.
Lazy Bones talked them into deleting the awning and adding blocking so other, stronger aftermarket awning could be installed, once deliverd . Once again, another minor change.

That was it, one small change allowed, don't hold your breath for anything much bigger, outside the list of available options
As we keep saying, LD is NOT a custom RV builder. The ability to pick the floorpan and interior and exterior colors, along with a few options,  allows them to be called customized.

Larry

Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
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When I ordered our 2017 MB, I asked Todd if they could install a hot water heater bypass valve during the construction as it would be easier than me trying to do it after delivery.  I offered to provide the kit and pay for the installation.  Todd said no.   Maybe he was in a bad mood that day. 
Glenn & Joan Lambert
Redford, MI
2017 27' Mid-Bath
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Quote from: RonB  - 
Hi Silver Fox. I have a '99 TK and of course that rear table is the dinette. Our first choice would have been the MB, but our driveway is barely long enough to fit the TK. San Diego now prohibits storage on the street. In 2017 we bought a used 2001 MB for some friends, and I insisted on adding a fold up table. I added their closet stored table, hinged and it folds up. Only 24" wide, instead of the TK 36" wide. I did install some bracing in the back wall, and covered the hole with the 'hinge support block'. I think the factory should make it standard. Pull pins for the hinges would allow it to be stored in the closet, similar to the TK's extension.   RonB

Do you happen to have any pictures of said MB mods? I've got 01 MB, and would love to take a peak. The wife and I are really thinking about the pantry to the aft of the bathroom door mod we saw in a video that was posted here recently.
2001 MB
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Hi Heness; I posted some pictures awhile back here; Attaching to back wall   I was just going to glue a piece of oak inside the wall, extending to vertical pieces inside the wall. Then glue the white wall board back in place, and screw the outside wall plate onto it. That would have covered the cut outs. I ran out of time, and the new owners wanted to get on the road, so I just screwed that oak hinge plate on to the back wall. They haven't had any issues (yet) and really like the fold down table. Only two feet wide, instead of the TK 3 feet wide. I should have put 'pull pin' hinges in, so the table could be re-located back into the wardrobe (that is why it is two feet wide).
     The pantry is easy. More for full timers maybe. Directions and descriptions from others here.    RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
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Quote from: henness  - 
The wife and I are really thinking about the pantry to the aft of the bathroom door mod we saw in a video that was posted here recently.

A pantry is a relatively simple cabinet to construct, the secret to making them look original is using Factory doors.
For a cheaper version, a couple members have found near match doors at Habitat for Humanity stores or other recycling centers.
I'm surprised LD never made pantries an option in the MB and T/Ks.
Mid-bath pantry-Maple | Flickr
Mid-bath pantry- Cherry | Flickr

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
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Quote from: Larry W  - 
A pantry is a relatively simple cabinet to construct, the secret to making them look original is using Factory doors.
Larry


I am curious whether by factory doors you mean doors from the Lazy Daze factory or doors ordered from somewhere like Lowe's or Home Depot?

/Kitty
2018 Mid-Bath Beatrix (bringer of joy)
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Reply #13 –
I called Todd back today and asked if there were any other options that were not listed and he pretty much confirmed that there were not. He mentioned the barrel chair and dinette swap was listed on the <floor plans> page for the 31s but I do not see it.

What are your recommendations for power outlets? I have heard where some folks add additional 115 VAC or even USB terminals maybe?
Chet in Yorktown, Virginia
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12V outlets may be “add-able”.
2003 TK has a new home
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Reply #15 –
Larry, the MB floor plan shows a pantry near the entry door. Is that different than the one you are talking about?

Lazy Daze - Floor Plans
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
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Reply #16 –
I don’t think there are any secret options.  You can request some small additions which may be accommodated. We had a DSS Ant. hook up added next to the cable tv hook up  in our 31 TB for a small fee.                          

Randy
2018 31' TB
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Quote from: HiLola  - 
Larry, the MB floor plan shows a pantry near the entry door. Is that different than the one you are talking about?
Lazy Daze - Floor Plans

The new pantry, in the MB, is located just to the rear of the bathroom door. The Factory pantry is on the left side of the entry way.


Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
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Reply #18 –
Hi Kitty, I'm not Larry, but the factory should make replacement doors in your furniture style. You would be best to specify a door size that you already have, or another floorplan's door size, in your color and pattern. I wouldn't expect it to be inexpensive. RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
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Quote from: RonB  - 
the factory should make replacement doors in your furniture style. You would be best to specify a door size that you already have, or another floorplan's door size, in your color and pattern. I wouldn't expect it to be inexpensive. RonB

As long as the wood and door style is still in current use, LD will sell you replacement doors, they are not cheap but are a perfect match. Some folks want a perfect match, some could care less. Drawers are available too.
LD does not sell custom size doors, I already tried, wanting a matching door to use if the microwave was removed.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
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Reply #20 –
When I was at the factory a while back the one extra option they offered was extra outlets where you wanted them.

Think where you will spend your time and what you will do there.  Lounge and sleeping areas -  charging for phones and other devices.  Outlets for  cpaps- 120v and 12v .  Laptop outlets.  Any other gadgets.  Any kitchen or bathroom Items.
Think of placement and reach - we have some on each side of our lounge area by where out heads are when we sleep and also closer to the kitchen area by the wardrobe.  If you use them often it is very nice not to have to reach 6’ across to get to an outlet and the.n be restricted by a 6’ cord.

Most people have more electrical devices they use now than they did 10-20 years ago, it is likely items will increase over time rather than decrease. 
Jane & Scott
Currently have a 1989 TK  LD we did a lot of upgrades on.
Bigfoot 25RQ Twin on order with early summer 2024 ETA

Our smartphone autocorrects into very poor English.
 We disclaim the illusion of ignorance this creates as we have enough ignorance we rightly claim.
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One addition that another owner had done in 1997, was another sewer hose storage. I did the same, after delivery, to my '99.
     Pretty simple and light weight.  The dump hose the TK came with is right behind the rear wheel. The length got abbreviated by installation of the Kwikee levelers. So I store the thinnest version of hose, and it has no termination on the farthest end. It is strictly for dumping.
     Many parks with full hook-ups require the use of a hose with fittings at both ends. This is supposed to provide a 'gas tight' seal. Featuring a screw in piece, then a press fit elbow. One park I know wants a hose support from motorhome to drain, to eliminate backup of contents in the hose. (I just dump quickly before I leave, don't leave the hose hooked up, since I don't carry a hose support.)
     The second hose is also a spare in case something happens to the other one. My second storage is a seven foot long tube under the back, near the bumper. The hose I store there is the thickest commonly available, and has fittings at both ends.
      The factory may not do this as an option any more, but they did at least once. YMMV     RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
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There is room under the rear bumper of most rigs for a large pipe, useful for storing extra dump hose or, as have used it, for fishing poles. Our LD has a full width 4" ABS pipe with locking ends.

Larry



Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
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Reply #23 –
I really like this idea. Is there a place on line that sells these to fit my ‘12, 27” RB?
Dale from Downey 27’ 2012 RB,”Casa Verde”, 2000 Jeep Wrangler. Formerly1991 RB & 1990 Jeep Wrangler.
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We have added a 6" PVC tube with caps that runs the whole width of our 98~MB.  We store our outside carpet on the roadside and our door mat on the curb side.  Larry has a great idea with the locking cap if you had something valuable in the tube.  You can pick up the 6"PVC at most places and you can find 8" and 10" tubes but you have to usually have to buy 20 ft lengths.  I considered those for caring skis but was worried they would be discovered and stolen.  We modified the roadside rear storage to fit my 192mm skies and Karen's too.

     Karen~Liam
        98 ~ MB
          NinA
1998 ~ MB  WanderDaze
previously a 1984 Winnebago itaska- The Road Warrior, before that several VW Buses and before that a 1965 Chrysler Convertible Newport or our 1969 Chrysler La Barron with an ice box and a couple sleeping bags