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Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #25 –
Greg, sorry if I wasn't clear enough. All the appropriate documents are in the vehicle when we are driving. California law mandates they be. They are removed when we are done driving for the day, except when using the LD.

Charles
Harvest Hosts + Boondockers Welcome #23975
Escapees SKP #138195
2007 23.5' Twin King
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #26 –
Thanks, Charles. I may start doing that myself!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #27 –
We have our name on the plate. The license, title, and insurance live in the LD.
Blimey if I can figure a rational reason for seeking such privacy by not doing so.
Never understood people tearing off the name label on magazines before discarding them.
Or masking their license plate in pictures.

Your Privacy

Law enforcement agencies have been focusing their investigative efforts on two main information sources: the telematics system — which is like the “black box” — and the infotainment system. The telematics system stores a vehicle’s turn-by-turn navigation, speed, acceleration and deceleration information, as well as more granular clues, such as when and where the lights were switched on, the doors were opened, seat belts were put on and airbags were deployed.

The infotainment system records recent destinations, call logs, contact lists, text messages, emails, pictures, videos, web histories, voice commands and social media feeds. It can also keep track of the phones that have been connected to the vehicle via USB cable or Bluetooth, as well as all the apps installed on the device.

Together, the data allows investigators to reconstruct a vehicle’s journey and paint a picture of driver and passenger behavior. In a criminal case, the sequence of doors opening and seat belts being inserted could help show that a suspect had an accomplice.

“I’m sure everyone is aware of how much forensic data is on the phone,” said Lam Nguyen, director of the Defense Cyber Crime Center, a federal forensic laboratory and training center. “What people don’t realize is a lot of that is being transmitted to a car just because you register the phone with the car.”

But compared with the security on smartphones, the security on the systems is much flimsier, digital forensic and privacy experts say. Drivers typically don’t have to unlock a vehicle’s infotainment system with a passcode or a fingerprint, as they do with smartphones. That means that, with a warrant, law enforcement officials can sometimes extract incriminating text messages, calls or files from an automobile far more easily than they could from a suspect’s cellphone.

“If you’ve committed some heinous crime and we can’t get into your phone, we can get peripheral data that has been synced to your car,” Nguyen said. “The contact list, calls made, text messages. In almost any criminal investigation, communication with the victim or co-conspirators is hugely important. Taking that with the telematics you get — how many people were in the car, how many doors opened — and it all paints a strong picture.”


You want to know what is known about you from being on the web? Well everything, since you have left your phone number, email address in several places. You may think you are hiding, but you are not,
Don & Dorothy
Sold our LD in June of 2023

Our boring always non-PC travel blog
Traveling Dorothy
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #28 –
"...two main information sources: the telematics system -- which is like the "black box" -- and the infotainment system..."

First time I've ever heard of this, are these 'systems' something that's built into the car from the factory? How does that work?   :(
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #29 –
Quote from: Lazy Bones  - 
"...two main information sources: the telematics system -- which is like the "black box" -- and the infotainment system..."

First time I've ever heard of this, are these 'systems' something that's built into the car from the factory? How does that work?  :(
Steve. Telematics, specifically Vehicle Telematics, was initially developed to monitor the location, movements, status, and behavior of a vehicle or fleet of vehicles. OnStar was GM's version. I was employed by Denso Wireless from the late 90's to mid 2000's. Denso Wireless first designed, developed, and manufactured CDMA cell phones for Sprint and later Verizon. Later on Denso Wireless was developing the next generation of Vehicle Telematics for Toyota, Lexus, Ford, Acura, and Honda. These modules included cell phone technology and were to be offered as an option. They were self-contained "black boxes" that plugged into the vehicle's electrical systems. That initial effort stalled and was abandoned by the auto manufacturers due to national economic issues.

For more info see What is Telematics

Charles

Harvest Hosts + Boondockers Welcome #23975
Escapees SKP #138195
2007 23.5' Twin King
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #30 –
Got our nameplate back from the engraver.  It’s actually etched, not engraved.  Can’t get much more generic than this!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #31 –
I inherited my dad's 1975.  When I sold it and bought a 1994, I pried off the plate and swapped it for the one one the new rig.  When I sold it and bought a 2004 I did it again.  LD has changed the size over the years but I don't care.  I love having my dad's plate.
2004 MB
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #32 –
Quote from: Elizabeth West-Ownbey  - 
I inherited my dad's 1975.  When I sold it and bought a 1994, I pried off the plate and swapped it for the one one the new rig.  When I sold it and bought a 2004 I did it again.  LD has changed the size over the years but I don't care.  I love having my dad's plate.
That doesn't seem correct to me, but I am funny like that.
Steve and Jill, Steve posting
1999 26.5 Mid-Bath
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #33 –
Quote from: Elizabeth West-Ownbey  - 
I inherited my dad's 1975.  When I sold it and bought a 1994, I pried off the plate and swapped it for the one one the new rig.  When I sold it and bought a 2004 I did it again.  LD has changed the size over the years but I don't care.  I love having my dad's plate.
I totally get that. 
Still pretty new to RV lifestyle & Lazy Daze
2014 27’ MB
Two beautiful Weimaraners, Junie & Pearl (now our angel dogs)
 
Re: Removing the Lazy Daze Placard
Reply #34 –
Decided to post in this existing old thread than start a new one.

Just removed the original name plate from my 2017 TK.

Looks to be two strips of butyl tape behind the nameplate.

Surrounded the area with painters tape, then slowly inserted a flexible putty knife while applying heat with a hair dryer.   Then just a bit of clean up and some alcohol, and it’s ready for some new butyl tape, the one Todd sent me a few weeks ago didn’t have any butyl.
Dave

2017 TK