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Re: Swivel base for passenger seat: Tutorial, LONG
Reply #25 –
Quote from: Karen & Liam  - 
I thought I saw in this thread that some one had found an alternative to the Sportsmoblie swivel base and were going to report back when it arrived and they had installed it, but I can not find the post.  Was there a report back on an alternative swivel base?

  ~Liam

The source I used 6 years ago (they're still in business) on Larry's suggestion was www DOT discountvantruck DOT com  Navigate to van bases, then Ford, and then '96+. The passenger seat base is $209, up from $189 when I bought mine. Totally satisfied with the product. -- Jon
(Former) ‘06 TK “Albatross.” And (former) Vespa 250.   Alas, no more; both are gone.😕 Great memories remain! 😄
Re: Swivel base for passenger seat: Tutorial, LONG
Reply #26 –
Found it, Thanks Jon


Ford Van Seat Bases,driver,passenger seat bases
1998 ~ MB  WanderDaze
previously a 1984 Winnebago itaska- The Road Warrior, before that several VW Buses and before that a 1965 Chrysler Convertible Newport or our 1969 Chrysler La Barron with an ice box and a couple sleeping bags
Re: Swivel base for passenger seat: Tutorial, LONG
Reply #27 –
Somewhere in this long exchange of comments, questions and answers about replacing an originally installed Ford cutaway cab front seat base that does not swivel, with one that does, is the question:  "Why Not?"

There are several factors that may be important.  Here are some:
Your front seats mounts are typically Ford and Department of Transportation (DOT) approved.
Ford Specifications for Front Seats for their Cut Away Chassis are provided and those specs are also DOT approved.
Your insurance companies really like the above two sentences and tend to not insure against accidents involving installations that do not comply with those sentences.
The geometry of the front seats include just how the seat belt pretensioner pyrotechnics operate. (Ford's total installation of same is approved through considerable testing.)
The geometry of Ford Spec controlled front seats include seat interface with one or more air bags as they deploy - almost always including the results of considerable air bag tests with approved seat dummy occupants.  Those Ford seat pedestals are a part of those tests.
Notice the comments that seat pedestal companies add to their adds, like:  For use on seat installations without Air Bags?
Notice the occasional statement regarding SAE standards?   Not all are interchangeable.
How many of us are capable of replacing a seat pedestal that would comply with the government certified seat installation originally applied to your Ford Cutaway Cab Chassis and the published Ford standards that qualified Lazy Daze as an Approved secondary manufacturer that completes that Ford Cutaway chassis into a Lazy Daze?
If you cannot do that, you are taking on an immense amount of monetary, civil and probably criminal risk when you replace a Ford/DOT Approved seat base with one that is not so approved for that specific Ford Chassis.
But what do I know - my book learning occurred ages ago.
Why not ask your Ford Dealer, your state vehicle licensing department and your insurance company for their opinion?
Don McG, who wanted a swivel front seat and decided against it.
Re: Swivel base for passenger seat: Tutorial, LONG
Reply #28 –
Quote from: mylazydaze  - 
Somewhere in this long exchange of comments, questions and answers about replacing an originally installed Ford cutaway cab front seat base that does not swivel, with one that does, is the question:  "Why Not?"

There are several factors that may be important.  Here are some:
Your front seats mounts are typically Ford and Department of Transportation (DOT) approved.
Ford Specifications for Front Seats for their Cut Away Chassis are provided and those specs are also DOT approved.
Your insurance companies really like the above two sentences and tend to not insure against accidents involving installations that do not comply with those sentences.

I worked in property casualty insurance claims and to be clear the above statement is a myth. Your insurance company is going to insure and cover claims regardless of this modification. If this weren't the case then they wouldn't cover losses after you install a Banks System or make other modifications.

If this is a concern I would encourage you to read your policy. The exclusions to coverage are there. I have personally never seen or heard of such an exclusion. I never heard of or saw a claim denied due to some vehicle modification. Of course, if you decide to start hauling nitroglycerin or use the vehicle at the race track then we might have something to talk about. If you use your vehicle for business or as a taxi and haven't revealed that there might be an issue.

My comment also applies if your vehicle is overloaded which is another comment I have seen. While there may be issues that an injury attorney would be interested in your policy is still going to cover you.

If you have an at fault accident you are already liable for the damages caused by that accident and your bodily injury coverage and property damage coverage are going to respond to that loss. It will not be denied due to something like this. It will not void your comprehensive, collision or medical coverages on an auto/RV policy.

Jim
 
Re: Swivel base for passenger seat: Tutorial, LONG
Reply #29 –



If you have an at fault accident you are already liable for the damages caused by that accident and your bodily injury coverage and property damage coverage are going to respond to that loss. It will not be denied due to something like this. It will not void your comprehensive, collision or medical coverages on an auto/RV policy.



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Thanks for confirming what I already presumed. We'll continue to enjoy our swivel seat!  -- Jon
(Former) ‘06 TK “Albatross.” And (former) Vespa 250.   Alas, no more; both are gone.😕 Great memories remain! 😄