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Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #25 –
"I’ve considered chucking the lot and installing 5 100 amp hour SOK’s."

If you watch the video posted in reply #21, that fellow had a similar situation, and he replaced six Battle Born batteries with two 280 amp hour Eco-Worthy batteries, at a total cost of $750. Given that connecting two batteries in parallel is a lot easier than connecting five, I would go that route.

And as for Battle Born's solar panels, given the multiple reports that their warranty support is even worse than I experienced with Lithionics, I wouldn't buy anything from that company.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #26 –
Quote from: Andy Baird  - 
I haven't seen where Will recommended this, but what I have heard himiGiven the high cost of these batteries (about $1,500 for 130 Ah) and the poor warranty treatment, I don't recommend Lithionics.

My  two Li Time batteries stay closely balanced, monitored throughout the Bluetooth app. The Battleborn batteries do not have Bluetooth, so I'm in the dark how they are doing.
It is hard to overcome the old habits of never totally discharging a lead-acid battery,  guess I should do it occasionally but let's say I will never feel comfortable doing so. The BMS should prevent damaging things.

It appears that none of the lithium battery manufactures warrant are worth much, I would gladly recycle the two Battleborn batteries if they actually honored their warrantiy but since they claim "there isn't a problem", there is no solution here other than buying two new batteries out of pocket, other than a class acton suit.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #27 –
Will Prowse recently posted this link to a class action suit against Battle Born:

Battle Born Batteries

I know nothing about it except that I don't qualify, because my two BB batteries haven't caught fire or melted yet... and since I don't intend to ever hook them up again, hopefully they never will.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #28 –
Quote from: Andy Baird  - 
Will Prowse recently posted this link to a class action suit against Battle Born:

Battle Born Batteries

I know nothing about it except that I don't qualify, because my two BB batteries haven't caught fire or melted yet... and since I don't intend to ever hook them up again, hopefully they never will.

You don't know, I would follow the post, as you might get something back for those batteries you won't use!!

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #29 –
SOK has a beautiful 314 amp hour battery for $999. If and when I upgrade from BB this will be my most likely choice. Compared to my BB’s that’s about $300 per 100 amp hrs for what looks like a far superior product.

My BB’s do have Bluetooth and all the data shown on my phone doesn’t indicate anything out of the ordinary. So far so good but you never know.

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #30 –
Quote from: HiLola  - 
Another video for those with Battle Born batteries. This is from an actual user. Fast forward to the 1:30 mark to avoid the intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3aySTut7Vs

I need to test the two Battleborn batteries, using Battleborn's method. It does not look too hard to do with the batteries still in place, each battery has a home-run set of cables going to common positive and negative terminal posts. Now that I know that fully discharging the batteries (to the point where the BMS shuts the battery down) can be helpful makes this chore a little easier to do..
I thought buying premium "American" batteries was the most dependable way to go. It doesn't do much reinforce the 'Buy American' efforts. I guess admitting fault would bankrupt Battleborn, their best defense may be not admitting fault and hoping for the best in court. Andy's experience with Lithionics, another premium battery, is another example that spending a bunch of money on "quality" sometimes doesn't pay.
This is all very disappointing.

I'm installing a pair of aquarium alarm thermometers to monitor the temperature of the two Battleborn positive terminals. There is already a remote thermometer monitoring ambient temperature of the battery compartment, for a point of comparison. Between voltage and capacity testing of the two batteries, combined with the temperature readings will help determine what I'm going to do.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #31 –
"you might get something back for those batteries you won't use!"

Already tried, but no dice. Since my batteries haven't overheated, caught fire, or failed in some other way, I'm not eligible for the lawsuit.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #32 –
"I thought buying premium 'American' batteries was the most dependable way to go."

Me too, Larry.

:: sigh ::
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #33 –
Quote from: Andy Baird  - 
"you might get something back for those batteries you won't use!"

Already tried, but no dice. Since my batteries haven't overheated, caught fire, or failed in some other way, I'm not eligible for the lawsuit.
We don't know the issue of the lawsuit, but it may apply to a design issue, leading to likely catastrophic failure eventually. Most lawsuits use this approach, to maximize profitability for the legal representatives... It doesn't hurt to throw in with the crowd.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #34 –
Warranties that are not worth the paper they are printed on seem to be the norm in the RV world...sigh.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #35 –
"It doesn't hurt to throw in with the crowd."

I agree. But if you go to the website and fill out their online form, you'll find that if you don't check one of the boxes for Overheating, Swelling, Fire, or Battery Failure, it will inform you that you're not eligible. That's when I got when I checked "No, I have not experienced any issues" and again when I tried "Other Issues."
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #37 –
Quote from: HiLola  - 
A new video from Will. The saga continues . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sQqZKlANlk

I can't understand why Battleborn engineers used such poor designs when doing it the right way wouldn't have cost more.
Today, I'm installing two aquarium thermometers to monitor the Battleborn batteries until I decide what I'm going to do.

I feel totally abused by Battleborn, they could have avoided this whole issue with a little bit of proper engineering.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
 
Re: Possible issues with Battle Born batteries
Reply #38 –
Ran across this new Battle Born ad:

          LIMITED TIME OFFER.
          Self-Heated Lithium Batteries.

Seems that’s the last thing they should be advertising about in face of their ongoing controversy.

Or they are rebranding their design flaws as features.

Either way, poor timing.
Dave

2017 TK