Fogged Windows December 15, 2025, 12:32:24 pm From time to time, there’s been a discussion about how difficult it is to remove LD windows to clean or repair them. There a place in Arkansas called RV Fog Dr that no longer will work on LD windows. They told me it just isn’t worth it. There’s another place in Grapevine, Texas that used to do the same work. In fact, a forum member drove from Florida to have them do work on his LD. Based on his recommendation, they repaired one of our windows in the lounge. And so far it has remained clear. The shop service manager told me it was incredibly difficult to remove and as a result, they will no longer work on LD windows. So when people say it’s difficult to remove these windows, you can bet the farm they’re not kidding. 5 Likes
Re: Fogged Windows Reply #1 – December 16, 2025, 01:48:54 pm We have a 98~MB with single pane windows, they will not fog internally. In some cold situations the windows do get fog on the glass on the inside of our LD and can be wiped off and some times this freezes. What are the differences between the LD thermo pane windows and the single pane ones? Karen~Liam 98 ~ MB NinA 1 Likes
Re: Fogged Windows Reply #2 – December 16, 2025, 02:13:17 pm I have considered going back to the old style dual-pane safety glass. Having owne LDs with both types of windows, the later dual-pane windows wth an air gap do not provide a significant increase thermal insulation, they do noticably decrease the ammount of exterior noise that enters the rig. With both styles of glass, the window's aluminum frames conduct large amounts of heat or cold, mostly negating any positive thermal insulation.Removing the windows wll be a BIG project, most of us have learned to live with the fogged glass.Larry 1 Likes
Re: Fogged Windows Reply #3 – December 16, 2025, 02:59:34 pm We have thought about getting a newer LD for a lot of reasons but for us one of the negative aspects of a newer then 2003 coach would be the possible window fog issue. Karen~Liam 98 ~ MB NinA 1 Likes
Re: Fogged Windows Reply #4 – December 16, 2025, 08:42:54 pm It makes me like my 1999 even more. 2 Likes
Re: Fogged Windows Reply #5 – December 18, 2025, 09:15:52 am QuoteThe shop service manager told me it was incredibly difficult to remove and as a result, they will no longer work on LD windows.So what is the deal with our windows? I've removed and repaired double panes on another rig without too much trouble getting the windows out. Had to push like crazy from the inside to get the frame to break loose from the butyl sealant but they all came out eventually. Did LD use some other sealant? I was thinking about redoing the back windows but I may have to reconsider! Thanks.jor
Re: Fogged Windows Reply #6 – December 18, 2025, 01:18:34 pm Hi JOR; I think the issue is that LD doesn't glue the aluminum siding to the wood paneling around the window cutout. If they did, water wouldn't seep in to the inside of the aluminum and rot it to the outside. (electrolysis). First thing I would do after a window frame was out would be to glue(seal) back an inch or so from the cut out hole and clamp it to remain flat on the outside. Wouldn't want a 'puckered' look to the aluminum around a window. Because the aluminum siding is loose, pushing the window frame out from inside, without separating the sealant from the window frame first, would tear, stretch or bend the sidewall aluminum. A company used to dry crumbly butyl tape retaining lesser built RV's windows, and being in a hurry, would do just that. Blame it on the Lazy Daze company because the windows are too hard to remove! (retraining the workers to be better craftsmen, doing their job, I guess, just isn't worth the effort.) (pardon the snide comment!) The archives here and also in a few blog's kept by LD owners, revealed that almost no one had issues with removing the windows or sealant. Probably because they were new at it and took the time to 'carefully' remove the frames properly. Not being paid by the hour helps with that, and being personally invested in the results does also. You shouldn't have any issues removing your windows John. I know that you are a careful technician. Let us know how hard your newer year of LD, was to do. RonB 2 Likes
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