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Atwood range/ oven won't light
  We are camped at Silver Lake, near June Lake, in the eastern Sierra. Elevation @ 7000’. Our 2012 27’, RB, has a 3 burner Wedgewood vision range/oven, by Atwood. I can see the spark from each piezo igniter on the range top but none of the three will light. I can’t light the pilot on the oven and I don’t smell any propane odor from either the range or the oven when attempting to light them. The water heater and the refrigerator work fine on propane. Has anyone experienced this problem before?
  Thanks in advance. Dale from Downey.
Dale from Downey 27’ 2012 RB,”Casa Verde”, 2000 Jeep Wrangler. Formerly1991 RB & 1990 Jeep Wrangler.
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #1 –
I have hit that and not at altitudes.

Sometimes you need to "prime" the path to a propane appliance.  I don't know if you know the path from the propane tank to the appliances in order, but I would try the one closest to the propane tank and run it several minutes, then try the next one (by itself), etc. until you hit the stove.  We have had trouble with the one furthest from the propane tank before and yes our propane pressure was good.

Also, if you run several at once the pressure might drop and not have enough when it gets to the stove.

Jane
Jane & Scott
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Bigfoot 25RQ Twin on order with early summer 2024 ETA

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Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #2 –
If you smell no propane after having a valve open for an extended time, then the regulator may have failed. It is under the stove top, which can be pivoted up by pushing it back until it pops up at the front.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #3 –
I am at a bit above 7000 feet at the Tetons, and have no problems.  If the fridge and the water heater are working, you must have adequate propane and the regulator is allowing at least SOME propane past, so you should be able to smell it at the stove burners.  Has anything been done that might have crimped the propane feed line to the stove and oven?  If you turn the water heater and the fridge off so there is no other consumption of propane, do you then get any smell?  Can you light any of the stove burners with a match?

My understanding of the system is that there are T connections in the line, without shutoff valves, for the appliances.  So, the only way that I can see propane getting to the water heater and the fridge but not to the stove is if something has caused a blockage of that line.

Ken F in WY
'08 MB
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #4 –
  "We are camped at Silver Lake, near June Lake..."

Stove problems at Silver Lake? Why worry man... just trot yourself over to the Café down the road and chow down. Save part of breakfast or lunch to carry you through dinner, just make sure you leave enough for me.   ;D
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #5 –
Quote from: dollinsdale  - 
I can’t light the pilot on the oven and I don’t smell any propane odor from either the range or the oven when attempting to light them.

Will the burners light using a lighter?
If not, Steve's suggestion that the stove's secondary regulator, under the stove's top, may be defective.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #6 –
No crimping of tube that I can see. I can’t light range or oven with a match. I don’t think there is any propane getting to any of the burners or oven.
Dale from Downey 27’ 2012 RB,”Casa Verde”, 2000 Jeep Wrangler. Formerly1991 RB & 1990 Jeep Wrangler.
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #7 –
Thanks for your reply, Jane, but I’m not sure what you mean by prime the line.
Dale from Downey 27’ 2012 RB,”Casa Verde”, 2000 Jeep Wrangler. Formerly1991 RB & 1990 Jeep Wrangler.
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #8 –
Thanks for the reply, Larry. Have you replaced the range/oven regulator before? I can see the part you are talking about. Is it a simple plug and play?
Dale from Downey 27’ 2012 RB,”Casa Verde”, 2000 Jeep Wrangler. Formerly1991 RB & 1990 Jeep Wrangler.
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #9 –
There is a secondary regulator for the stove?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #10 –
Quote from: dollinsdale  - 
Thanks for the reply, Larry. Have you replaced the range/oven regulator before? I can see the part you are talking about. Is it a simple plug and play?

Perhaps this link to an owner's manual will be of help?

ATWOOD 33 WEDGEWOOD RV INSTALLATION & OPERATION MANUAL Pdf Download.
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #11 –
Quote from: Ed & Margee  - 
Perhaps this link to an owner's manual will be of help?
ATWOOD 33 WEDGEWOOD RV INSTALLATION & OPERATION MANUAL Pdf Download.

Page 6, part number 9 is the pressure regulator.
Installing it require disassembly of the manifold, to get to the regulator. The regulator's inlet pipe should be sealed using a gas-rated teflon paste.
After reassembly, the gas pressure should be tested, using a manometer, for pressure and for leaks.
It isn't a beginner's DIY job since it involves propane, the most dangerous stuff we deal with daily in our coaches.
Using a manometer is a necessary element that is often skipped. It is the proper tool to test for leakage and setting the operating pressure.
If you have any doubts, hire a pro.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Atwood range/ oven
Reply #12 –
Greg - older stoves don't have that second regulator (ours does not), new stoves do.

Prime - just get some propane to the appliances (fill the lines). We had some problems at some point with the furnace - I think it was our first trip to Quartzsite shortly after we got the RV. Our RV seems to go from propane tank (drivers side towards rear) to stove (same size) to fridge (passenger side closer to cab a bit) to hit water heater (even closer to cab) to furnace (closest one to cab). I have seen tees everywhere but I have not seen the stove one.

We had help from the LD group at Quartzsite that gave some suggestions. We had to turn on a stove burner and let it burn a minute, then turn it off and turn on fridge (propane) then after a bit turn on furnace. Then the furnace lit. And if I remember right we could not run all 3 at once. We rarely use the furnace (not cold enough) and previous owners used a space heater so the furnace might not have been used for a while before we tried it.

Last time we used the furnace (Morro Bay) but we didn't have the stove on at the same time, so I don't know if we would run into any issues of both not working at same time. I will have to make a note to try this again.

Jane

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Jane & Scott
Currently have a 1989 TK  LD we did a lot of upgrades on.
Bigfoot 25RQ Twin on order with early summer 2024 ETA

Our smartphone autocorrects into very poor English.
 We disclaim the illusion of ignorance this creates as we have enough ignorance we rightly claim.
Re: Atwood range/ oven won't light
Reply #13 –
When I tilted up our stovetop to look, I actually expected to see a shut-off valve - not the regulator. I believe our '83 had such a valve. But what this brings into question is where to hook up a manometer to accurately measure system propane pressure. Measuring at a stove burner, where it is easiest to hook up the gauge, could give a false reading, since the stove regulator could correct for a high system pressure. Any suggestions?

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit
Re: Atwood range/ oven won't light
Reply #14 –
Hi Steve. I would like Larry to check in on this, but I believe there is a gas test port at the refrigerator burner. The advantage here is that it is outdoors.  RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Atwood range/ oven won't light
Reply #15 –
Quote from: Steve  - 
When I tilted up our stovetop to look, I actually expected to see a shut-off valve - not the regulator. I believe our '83 had such a valve. But what this brings into question is where to hook up a manometer to accurately measure system propane pressure. Measuring at a stove burner, where it is easiest to hook up the gauge, could give a false reading, since the stove regulator could correct for a high system pressure. Any suggestions?

The primary propane pressure regulator has a test port that can be used to compare the output of the stove's secondary regulator .



Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Atwood range/ oven won't light
Reply #16 –
We returned home today (@ 50’ elev.) and all three burners AND the oven worked perfectly!  Now what?
Dale from Downey.
Dale from Downey 27’ 2012 RB,”Casa Verde”, 2000 Jeep Wrangler. Formerly1991 RB & 1990 Jeep Wrangler.
 
Re: Atwood range/ oven won't light
Reply #17 –
I would start by checking the propane line pressure. If you run the furnace and check the flame through the inspection port, it should be blue and strong with minimal or no yellow at the very tip. If the flame rides up so the base is off the burner though, the pressure is too high. If the flame looks good AND the stove burners have a good flame, then I would say replacing the range's internal regulator would be worth trying.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit