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Lazy Daze Forums => Lazy Daze Technical => Topic started by: Ed & Margee on August 31, 2023, 01:13:56 pm

Title: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Ed & Margee on August 31, 2023, 01:13:56 pm
Our 2009 city water check valve is occasionally sticking shut.   I think I remember someone saying that it’s easier to simply remove and replace the existing check valve BUT not the eternal part screwed to the sidewall.  I’ve heard that the external part is strongly attached as only the Factory attaches things.   I’d like to avoid that struggle.   Does anyone remember anything similar to this repair?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Bob Wilson on August 31, 2023, 03:20:34 pm
I just installed a new city water check valve on our 2007 IB 31 ft  LD

Very easy,  ordered  valve on line  caulked inside edges  replaced 3 exterior screws  DONE

Bob
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Ed & Margee on August 31, 2023, 03:52:30 pm
I just installed a new city water check valve on our 2007 IB 31 ft  LD

Very easy,  ordered  valve on line  caulked inside edges  replaced 3 exterior screws  DONE

Do you have the model number or link to the part you bought?  I just ordered one from Amazon hoping it’s the right size.

Amazon.com: RV City Water Inlet with Check Valve, RV Water Fill Inlet... (https://www.amazon.com/Lead-free-Backflow-Preventer-Motorhome-Trailer/dp/B09BFSXHP6/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=IJY4BRUJ723T&keywords=rv+large+city+water+inlet&qid=1693511854&sprefix=rv+city+water+inlet%2Caps%2C4649&sr=8-3)

How did you remove the original one?  Some heat and gentle prying?

And thank you Bob.
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: rich on August 31, 2023, 04:02:53 pm
I’ve heard that the external part is strongly attached as only the Factory attaches things.   I’d like to avoid that struggle.   Does anyone remember anything similar to this repair?

The Lazy Daze Companion: Repair A Leaking City Water Connetion (https://lazydazearticles.blogspot.com/2014/01/repair-leaking-city-water-connetion_23.html)

Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Ed & Margee on August 31, 2023, 04:11:22 pm
The Lazy Daze Companion: Repair A Leaking City Water Connetion (https://lazydazearticles.blogspot.com/2014/01/repair-leaking-city-water-connetion_23.html)

That’s the article I read a long time ago.  Perfect and thank you.  I’m inclined to replace the entire fixture based on what Bob posted above.  Margee will be my helper and she has incredible patience.  The harder the project, the more determined she becomes.  And hammers or brute force are NOT her style.  So we’ll see how this goes.
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Bob Wilson on August 31, 2023, 04:13:30 pm
Hi

To remove,  I first removed  the 3 screws.  Then using a stanley knife I carefully  cut around  the outside edge  did not want to have

paint chip.  As I did this, I carefully  lifted the valve  away from the frame,  valve removed easy from interior water line

I do not have info from whom I purchased valve

Bob
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: rich on August 31, 2023, 04:17:16 pm
That’s the article I read a long time ago.  Perfect and thank you.  I’m inclined to replace the entire fixture based on what Bob posted above.  Margee will be my helper and she has incredible patience.  The harder the project, the more determined she becomes.  And hammers or brute force are NOT her style.  So we’ll see how this goes.

I replaced just the inside parts, as described in the article.  Once you figure it out, it takes less than 5 minutes.

You could try replacing just the inside parts, and then move on to replacing the whole assembly if replacing the insides proves to be unsatisfactory. 

Rich

Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Steve K. on August 31, 2023, 05:12:14 pm
Ed & Margee, IF you replace the entire city water connection, keep in mind that you will now have a white city water port instead of one that is color coordinated to match your rig. Not a look I wanted...

I was one of the contributors to the article posted on  "The Companion". The repair that is posted was recommended to me by someone at the Lazy Daze factory. The repair is much easier than it reads if you have the parts in your hand.

Steve K
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Ed & Margee on August 31, 2023, 06:05:42 pm
Thanks Steve.  Our city water valve is Oxford white and the replacement is white.  If it doesn’t match, I’ll probably do the fix as you described. We’ll know in a few days one way or another. 
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Ed & Margee on September 14, 2023, 05:11:57 pm
We’ve carefully reviewed the guidance in The Companion and several YouTube videos that showed us how to remove and install just a new check valve.  So now I understand how to do that. 

Edited on 9/23/2023 - After more consideration, we plan to remove just the old check valve as recommended above and install a new one.   If the new check valve is not an exact match, then we may replace the entire fitting.  I didn't want to mess with removing the old fitting which might damage the paint if I was a bit careless.  I may also post the results if I haven't worn out this topic!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1m1Igy8QGc

This video seems to mirror the directions from The Companion. 
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Ed & Margee on September 27, 2023, 02:30:27 pm
We finally replaced just the city water check valve this morning.   Everything seems to work when I turn on the water pump.   I haven’t tested it with a city water connection which will probably be when we’re on the road. 

I couldn’t see why the old valve wasn’t working which has me wondering if we’ve actually fixed anything.  Time will tell!
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Larry W on September 27, 2023, 05:41:32 pm
I permanently prevented any future City Water connection leaks twenty years ago by installing one of these in the City Water inlet
Amazon.com: Camco 22103 RV Plug with Lanyard : Everything Else (https://www.amazon.com/Camco-22103-RV-Plug-Lanyard/dp/B00Y52IOHA/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=garden%2Bhose%2Bplug%2Bmale&qid=1695850715&sr=8-6&th=1)

Our LD has never been subjected to the dangerous pressure surges of city water connections, instead, we use only the onboard water supply and water pump. YMMV

Larry
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Ed & Margee on October 12, 2023, 10:59:57 am
End of story … we hope.

The replacement check valve in the city water connection seems to have resolved the problem.   Or at least for the last 3 days.   My best guess is the spring in the old check valve was weak since the plunger and o-ring seemed fine. Who knows?

Destination:   We highly recommend Lake Bob Sandlin SP near Pittsburgh, Texas.

Now what?   We are having a second cup of coffee, listening to some of our favorite music,  looking at the lake out the back window while sitting at the dinette table.  Our To-Do List 📋 is once again empty. 

We’re feeling very grateful. 
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: kevin hannah on October 13, 2023, 09:53:54 am
Thanks for your discussion on replacing the check valve. I just finished doing the same. I used a nut driver on both the inside where my wife held the plastic tee in place while I installed the spring and used another smaller nut driver on the outside to install the disc. It snapped into place and it works. I also feel it was a weak spring and not the washer but I replaced both.

Kevin Hannah
Title: Re: City Water Check Valve
Post by: Ed & Margee on October 13, 2023, 10:12:52 am
Hello Kevin.   Using a nut driver was a nice idea which I’ll have to remember in the future.   I’m glad I didn’t replace the entire city water fixture but just the check valve.   Keeping repairs simple always seems like the best solution.