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Title: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: tedeboy on August 25, 2021, 05:48:53 pm
This is great deal.

Infinity Reference 8632CFX 6"x8" 2-Way Car Speakers - Pair Amazon.com: Infinity Reference 8632CFX 6"x8" 2-Way Car Speakers - Pair :... (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B8VBC5B/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_T5FEME988S1Z007KM71K?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1)

Also, here's how:

How to Install New Door Speakers in Your E-450 Chassis RV - Trek With Us (http://www.trekwithus.com/install-new-door-speakers-e-450-chassis-rv)

Mine get here tomorrow.
If these sound as good I think they are I will get another pair for the back.

My deck was upgraded by LD to a Sony but they left the stock speakers which are horrible.

Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: Andy Baird on August 25, 2021, 06:11:16 pm
Thanks for the tip! As a supplement to the video, this photo showing how to remove the door trim may be useful as a reference. I prepared it when upgrading the speakers in my 2003 midbath a few years ago.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: brewersarcade on August 26, 2021, 11:05:50 am
Is this the same for a 2008 LD? I replaced the rear speakers since its so easy to do but haven't tackled the front door speakers yet. I would really like to replace the Sony receiver with a double din screen that supports Apple CarPlay but I have no idea how it would be wired.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: krmugn on August 26, 2021, 02:49:37 pm
"I would really like to replace the Sony receiver with a double din screen that supports Apple CarPlay but I have no idea how it would be wired".

Joe,

Have you called Crutchfield? They have good support for installations in my experience. They might be able to help!

Bill
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: tedeboy on August 26, 2021, 04:39:42 pm
"I would really like to replace the Sony receiver with a double din screen that supports Apple CarPlay but I have no idea how it would be wired".

Joe,

Have you called Crutchfield? They have good support for installations in my experience. They might be able to help!

Bill
I agree.
Crutchfield is a little higher on their prices but the customer service makes it well worth the price.

Car Stereo: Stereos, Radios & Receivers (http://www.crutchfield.com/m_266150/Car-Stereos.html?)
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: brewersarcade on August 26, 2021, 06:40:19 pm
I ordered a set. You are right…$40 cheaper than Crutchfield and Amazon sells the harness. So I need to change the harness to fix the polarities? And yes I actually reached out to Crutchfield regarding the receiver and they weren’t much help…I think I need to give it another shot. I think I didn’t get the best rep via email.

This is great deal.

Infinity Reference 8632CFX 6"x8" 2-Way Car Speakers - Pair Amazon.com: Infinity Reference 8632CFX 6"x8" 2-Way Car Speakers - Pair :... (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B8VBC5B/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_T5FEME988S1Z007KM71K?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1)

Also, here's how:

How to Install New Door Speakers in Your E-450 Chassis RV - Trek With Us (http://www.trekwithus.com/install-new-door-speakers-e-450-chassis-rv)

Mine get here tomorrow.
If these sound as good I think they are I will get another pair for the back.

My deck was upgraded by LD to a Sony but they left the stock speakers which are horrible.


Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: MReeves on August 26, 2021, 06:58:47 pm
I ordered a set. You are right…$40 cheaper than Crutchfield and Amazon sells the harness. So I need to change the harness to fix the polarities? And yes I actually reached out to Crutchfield regarding the receiver and they weren’t much help…I think I need to give it another shot. I think I didn’t get the best rep via email.

Just an FYI. I had factory system changed to pioneer with infinity speakers front and back. Also had tweeters installed front pillars and best of all while doors were taken apart I had sound deadening material installed. Sounds great and really cuts down on exterior noise.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: tedeboy on August 27, 2021, 09:52:19 am
I ordered a set. You are right…$40 cheaper than Crutchfield and Amazon sells the harness. So I need to change the harness to fix the polarities? And yes I actually reached out to Crutchfield regarding the receiver and they weren’t much help…I think I need to give it another shot. I think I didn’t get the best rep via email.


I have the harnesses in order.
They should be here today.
I'll switch the wires if the polarity is reversed. Something to be aware of according to the reviews.
I may forgo the adapter and just straight wire them.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: tedeboy on August 27, 2021, 09:52:37 am
I ordered a set. You are right…$40 cheaper than Crutchfield and Amazon sells the harness. So I need to change the harness to fix the polarities? And yes I actually reached out to Crutchfield regarding the receiver and they weren’t much help…I think I need to give it another shot. I think I didn’t get the best rep via email.


I have the harnesses on order.
They should be here today.
I'll switch the wires if the polarity is reversed. Something to be aware of according to the reviews.
I may forgo the adapter and just straight wire them.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: Larry W on August 27, 2021, 01:17:17 pm
l while doors were taken apart I had sound deadening material installed. Sounds great and really cuts down on exterior noise.

While the door panels are off, it’s a good time to apply a sound damping. Apply the damping adhesive sheets to the inside of the exterior sheet metal door, after wiping the surface with a solvent to remove any grease or dirt.
Dynamat is the best known among many suppliers of sound damping and insulation suppliers.
Car Soundproofing & Noise Reduction | Dynamat Extreme | Dynamat (https://www.dynamat.com/products/dynamat-xtreme/)
I have used this brand seveal times with success.
Super Sonic Acoustical Mat Thermo Tec | Thermo Tec (https://www.thermotec.com/product/super-sonic-acoustical-mat-thermo-tec)

Larry
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: brewersarcade on August 27, 2021, 02:11:34 pm
While the door panels are off, it’s a good time to apply a sound damping. Apply the damping adhesive sheets to the inside of the exterior sheet metal door, after wiping the surface with a solvent to remove any grease or dirt.
Dynamat is the best known among many suppliers of sound damping and insulation suppliers.
Car Soundproofing & Noise Reduction | Dynamat Extreme | Dynamat (https://www.dynamat.com/products/dynamat-xtreme/)
I have used this brand seveal times with success.
Super Sonic Acoustical Mat Thermo Tec | Thermo Tec (https://www.thermotec.com/product/super-sonic-acoustical-mat-thermo-tec)

Larry

Very good idea. Do you just cover as much of the interior door as possible?
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: Larry W on August 27, 2021, 04:34:34 pm
Very good idea. Do you just cover as much of the interior door as possible?


The idea is to reduce reverberation of thre sheet metal, so yes, cover as much of the inside of the exterior door panel as possible. Some cover ever square inch of the accessable interior sheet metal, floors, door and ceiling, after removing the trim or whatever is covering the metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9s2MmkDZ_o

Larry
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: tedeboy on August 27, 2021, 11:10:19 pm
The idea is to reduce reverberation of thre sheet metal, so yes, cover as much of the inside of the exterior door panel as possible. Some cover ever square inch of the accessable interior sheet metal, floors, door and ceiling, after removing the trim or whatever is covering the metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9s2MmkDZ_o

Larry

Thanks for this idea Larry.
I ordered this age will use it on my sites when I replace the speakers.

KILMAT 80 mil 36 sqft Car Sound Deadening Mat, Butyl Automotive Sound Deadener, Audio Noise Insulation and dampening Amazon.com: KILMAT 80 mil 36 sqft Car Sound Deadening Mat, Butyl Automotive... (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0751CBXBT/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_0GKK81R8X9CNSX1Y06QB)
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: brewersarcade on August 27, 2021, 11:20:40 pm
Thanks for this idea Larry.
I ordered this age will use it on my sites when I replace the speakers.

KILMAT 80 mil 36 sqft Car Sound Deadening Mat, Butyl Automotive Sound Deadener, Audio Noise Insulation and dampening Amazon.com: KILMAT 80 mil 36 sqft Car Sound Deadening Mat, Butyl Automotive... (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0751CBXBT/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_0GKK81R8X9CNSX1Y06QB)

Literally just ordered the same sound deadening material and roller. Everything is supposed to arrive Sunday. Hopefully in time to have a fun project for the day.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: tedeboy on August 28, 2021, 08:21:42 pm
Literally just ordered the same sound deadening material and roller. Everything is supposed to arrive Sunday. Hopefully in time to have a fun project for the day.


Working on it today.
I also put a layer inside.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zD6YcpbP/20210828-171831.jpg)
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: brewersarcade on August 28, 2021, 10:03:17 pm

Working on it today.
I also put a layer inside.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zD6YcpbP/20210828-171831.jpg)

Looks really clean. My kit is coming tomorrow and depending on the time it arrives I may try and tackle it. i already received my speakers and harness. Did you notice if you had to chance the polarity using the harness? The only downside I see is if you ever need to swap out your window regulator. Would be a pain to have to pull that all off and out of the way to access it.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: tedeboy on August 28, 2021, 10:34:21 pm
Looks really clean. My kit is coming tomorrow and depending on the time it arrives I may try and tackle it. i already received my speakers and harness. Did you notice if you had to chance the polarity using the harness? The only downside I see is if you ever need to swap out your window regulator. Would be a pain to have to pull that all off and out of the way to access it.


My harnesses aren't here yet.
I'll inspect them closely and switch them if need be.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: tedeboy on September 05, 2021, 09:20:57 pm
UPDATE

Got the speakers installed finally and the difference is profoundly better. Those cheap paper cone Ford speakers are fairly worthless.

A really good upgrade.
The sound is so much more "present" and dynamic.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: MReeves on September 28, 2021, 10:47:44 am
Hi Tedeboy, do those Infinity's also fit in the rear MB speaker enclosures? Also, was the 36 sq. ft. of Kilmat enough to cover both doors? Thanks
Don't know about Tedeboy but I had Infinity speakers installed in my rear MB speaker enclosures. They fit perfectly and sound even better.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: Jota on September 28, 2021, 07:49:12 pm
I picked up my new to me LD on September 27th. 14 years ago.
It had a cassette player but I came prepared. I dug up some old cassettes I made and brought them with me.
That got me back across Texas and into New Mexico.
The first thing I improved was a new stereo and speakers. I got a CD player, one that would play MP3's. It has a remote control so I can easily use it while lounging in back.
It has served me well in 14 years, the rear speakers made a huge improvement, and I adjust the balance a bit toward the rear.
I started making Lazy Daze number 1, with MP3's I can get about 140 or so songs per CD, about 10 hours of excellent music.
I'm up to Lazy Daze number 9 now, so have a lot of music for the road, or just having music with my meals, which I enjoy.
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: Linda B on September 28, 2021, 10:18:23 pm
I have the harnesses on order.
They should be here today.
I'll switch the wires if the polarity is reversed. Something to be aware of according to the reviews.
I may forgo the adapter and just straight wire them.

Ted,
I didn't see...was the harness reversed polarity?
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: brewersarcade on September 29, 2021, 08:10:47 am
Ted,
I didn't see...was the harness reversed polarity?

For my 2008 the harness was reversed polarity and I resoldered the connections to the proper lug on the speaker. I ended up not doing the full Dynamat insulation for the job and instead went with these speaker baffles that install in the speaker hole.
Amazon.com: Design Engineering 050371 Boom Mat Speaker Baffles, 6" x 8" Oval... (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039YWTJ4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1)
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: RonB on September 29, 2021, 12:24:15 pm
For a TK the front speakers are a 'don't care'. The only time I'm in the front is when I'm driving, and then sound quality is hard to discern what with noise and all.  The back speakers were replace almost immediately, and plywood boxes that protect the new 6x9" speakers from debris settling onto the back of the cones.  That also provides a baffled acoustic suspension.  Rear dinette seating and a radio with a remote control (a novel idea for LD at the time) provides good audio.  The rear cigarette lighter socket (power point) allows me to plug in my XMradio 'Roadie' in the back wall under the flip up TV platform.   RonB
Title: Re: Replacing stock speakers
Post by: Shizzle on October 06, 2021, 11:23:46 am
Hi Tedeboy, what is the correct harness you used off Amazon to connect the Infinity's? Was there a polarity issue? Thanks