I have had three people in five days stop by and ask if I want to sell my LD, even as old as it is.
There’s lots of interest in used LDs if anyone is considering selling.
I’ve put so much labor into mine lately that I need to keep it and use it for at least another year.
Indeed, used LDs were a scarce resource even before the pandemic.
Now they are virtually impossible to find for sale without being snatched up immediately, hence you have buyers asking owners if they are remotely interested in selling.
I am still looking for a 23.5/24 foot....yes I know they are as rare as hens teeth....
I am glad I picked up the Casita...at least I'm able to travel ....got my shots and have reservations April and May for some low key camping...double masked . I can no longer watch the paint fade on the walls....gotta go somewhere. Once all this covid madness goes away...folks will feel safe to show their units. I have also started looking more at my 2nd choice....Coach House ...no slides in some of them..all one piece fiberglass bodies. CH has a factory in Nokomis, Fl. No middle guys....Factory direct if anyone interested.
We bought a Coach House motorhome a few years ago. They are a Class B about 24-25 feet, and are either on a Mercedes or a Ford. They are a very high quality RV made from top of the line parts. We visited the factory twice during the process (once to buy and once to pick up). They have many workers who have been there for 15-20 years which is one of the reasons for the high quality. I'm sure anyone used to the high quality of a Lazy Daze would appreciate a Coach House. We sold it after a couple of years mostly because it was just too small for our needs. We are now back in the Lazy Daze family. Hope this helps. Gale
I have had three people in five days stop by and ask if I want to sell my LD, even as old as it is.
There’s lots of interest in used LDs if anyone is considering selling.
I’ve put so much labor into mine lately that I need to keep it and use it for at least another year.
It's a seller's market for sure.
I got $19.5K for our 1995 TK from the first person who looked at it. I had it in very good shape.
The speed of the sale tells me I could have got more but I'm okay with the price we got.
It's a seller's market for sure.
I got $19.5K for our 1995 TK from the first person who looked at it. I had it in very good shape.
The speed of the sale tells me I could have got more but I'm okay with the price we got.
Wow!
Wow!
I was totally out front with its flaws also.
I hid nothing by omission.
In other words, I treated the buyer like I wish we were treated when we originally bought it.
“We bought a Coach House motorhome a few years ago. They are a Class B about 24-25 feet, and are either on a Mercedes or a Ford. They are a very high quality RV made from top of the line parts...“
Class B or C? High quality, to be sure. We considered a Coach House and Born Free (no longer in business) prior to buying our first Lazy Daze. We easily selected Lazy Daze for the following reasons: 1) Lazy Daze are of comparable build quality, 2) at the time, Lazy Daze pricing was ~$100k versus over $150k for a Coach House or Born Free, and 3) of the three, Lazy Daze has a bright, open interior with picture windows that bring the outdoors in.
Here is Coach House’s website. Pricing has continued to increase...
Home - Coach House | Luxury Class B-Plus Motorhomes (https://www.coachhouserv.com/)
Warren
Seems I just joined the "Do you want to sell your Lazy Daze?" party.
I was out running an errand and the plumber who was doing some work in the house asked my step-father if I'd be willing to sell my LD. He told him "no". I suggested a price of $1 Million should someone ask again in the future (seller's market :-) ).
Will let ours go for one less zero than your ask... maybe!
Just to let folks know...Josh the flipper is on our forum.....he just posted a 2003 LD 23.5 on rvtrader....the person he bought it from had the ad up 24 hours...she emailed me after posting the ad.....I ask her to take it down while I reviewed the records and drove down to see it. I decided it was not for me. Her asking price was 19,500.....Josh saw the ad in the 24 hours and sent a message to her....his story was that he had been looking for one a long time....I sent her an email that he was a flipper...doubling the price or even more.....not sure what she ended up selling it to him for but I'm sure he had a story....hope we can figure out who he is and get him blocked....I also believe their are others on here doing the same flipping business...should be easy to located....this is why I ask in my ad that sellers contact me before placing an ad.....trying to avoid conflict and madness while trying to purchase an expensive item....
If any member is aware of an LD flipper posting on our Classifieds forum, please let Judie, Larry or me know. The Classifieds forum is for the convenience of LDOG members' honest interests to buy or sell a Lazy Daze, not to "flip" them. Flippers will be flipped off.
Chris
https://youtu.be/54-DzkUnYXA
Here is the video of how he ships them
This is the 2003 23.5 he nabbed in Florida off one of our members
The ph number he is presently using is 424 260 0292
Usely in Torrence, Ca.
Appears to have elements of a free market, in a capitalist society, where individual liberties are abundant. Fascinating pic of transporting a LD. Thank you for sharing.
I, like DebInVenice, have been inducted into the 'party'.
A second door-knocker came by the other day wondering if I was willing to sell.
Undeterred by my response, he asked if I might be willing to take $45K for it.
Me: "No, but the executor of my estate might. She has first right of refusal"
Him: "I'm not sure I understand you".
Me: "The main reason I am not interested in selling is that I am still alive"
He seemed to understand and left. I hope that he wasn't shifting to plan 'B'
There's a guy that keeps coming by to try to persuade me to sell my LD. Last attempt was #4. It's all in a different post about rude buyers. Some just don't want to take no for an answer.
Spoke with Todd at Lazy Daze today about scheduling a repair and he remarked that if you already own a Lazy Daze, you're lucky since you've got "gold." ;D
We are on the wait list for a new rig. Checked in the other day and were told there is zero production at the moment because they cannot get any chassis from Ford. Happy to have our 2006 26.5 RB.
Ford E-series are built at the Avon Lake, OH, plant; this notice indicates that they will be shut down for a week. The "chips" aren't falling! :(
Ford Motor Company Ohio Assembly Plant - Avon Lake, Ohio, USA (https://fordauthority.com/fmc/ford-motor-company-plants-facilities/ford-motor-company-usa-plants-facilities/ohio-assembly-plant-avon-lake-ohio-usa/)
Lazy Daze is a tiny niche producer, so it receives a very small chassis allocation compared to the mega-manufacturers, even when the chassis are available.
I am thinking of selling my 2004 26.5 midbath LD, but not sure yet. It needs some repairs, but only 35k miles on it. I'm curious what they are selling for. Grown kids moved clear across the country so I may be doing more flying than driving :(
Hi,
What type if repairs are you talking about? What features?
Better to get this information from the seller. Click on the poster's avatar and send a personal message from the link in his/her profile.
I am thinking of selling my 2004 26.5 midbath LD, but not sure yet. It needs some repairs, but only 35k miles on it. I'm curious what they are selling for.
Used and new RVs, boats, cars, homes are all selling above historical valves. The out of control market place is setting prices that seem to regularly increase. Values seem to depend on location and condition. Owners in larger urban areas with a well maintained “something” are asking 10-15% or more over historical values.
Hope this helps.
“We bought a Coach House motorhome a few years ago. They are a Class B about 24-25 feet, and are either on a Mercedes or a Ford. They are a very high quality RV made from top of the line parts...“
Class B or C? High quality, to be sure. We considered a Coach House and Born Free (no longer in business) prior to buying our first Lazy Daze. We easily selected Lazy Daze for the following reasons: 1) Lazy Daze are of comparable build quality, 2) at the time, Lazy Daze pricing was ~$100k versus over $150k for a Coach House or Born Free, and 3) of the three, Lazy Daze has a bright, open interior with picture windows that bring the outdoors in.
Here is Coach House’s website. Pricing has continued to increase...
Home - Coach House | Luxury Class B-Plus Motorhomes (https://www.coachhouserv.com/)
Warren
If u can't find that quality used LD then definitely consider a used Coach House. The pricing is not that much different and quality holds up.
If u can't find that quality used LD then definitely consider a used Coach House. The pricing is not that much different and quality holds up.
CH used are way overpriced for me. Especially the ones sold by the factory. They have problems too. Hard to get coach parts as some are European. That issue was there before covid. Also, closed in feeling and paint job not as durable. However, it is nice to have factory to perform work on the CH.
LD best value now. But even some of them are over priced. But hey get it while you can!
Ron
Due to the closure of the LD Mothership, the Tiger Adventure Vehicles Provan Bengal has become the new plan B.
The F450 instead of the E450 is very appealing. Since this group is not afraid of giving their opinion, I welcome any comments.
Due to the closure of the LD Mothership, the Tiger Adventure Vehicles Provan Bengal has become the new plan B.
The F450 instead of the E450 is very appealing. Since this group is not afraid of giving their opinion, I welcome any comments.
That looks like a nice vehicle, although at a
base of $110,000
plus the cost of the chassis, it's rather expensive. If you do get it, I have a friend who has a rig with that recessed 2 burner stove. She says because it's recessed, you can't get pans on both of the two burners at the same time. Definitely opt for a 3 burner cook top or the 3 burner plus oven choice.
I really feel for you not being able to get your hoped for new LD, but I'd be burning down the internet for a good used one if I were in your shoes.
Due to the closure of the LD Mothership, the Tiger Adventure Vehicles Provan Bengal has become the new plan B.
Sans the obvious advantage of four wheel drive on a F450, and higher ground clearance, the Tiger is effectively a 24’ TK space wise, in which there is a 2020 TK for sale right now, practically brand new, for less than a Tiger.
Getting a low mileage newish TK was (is) my plan B.
If I hadn’t found a TK new enough, a Tiger would have been my next choice, though it would have stressed my budget significantly, as well as placing me trying to locate a new F450, still not easy.
Why not buy a new or used truck and simply put a camper shell on it? The Tiger appears to be very small inside.
I'd be burning down the internet for a good used one if I were in your shoes.
My wife has her heart set on "new."
My wife has her heart set on "new."
So did I, wanted the whole experience, mothership and all, but I figured a 2017 with 7,000 miles was new enough back in March, remained in the list.
The Tiger is essentially a “truck camper” rig. Comparing it with truck campers may be helpful.
I would compare the Tiger with a one ton class pickup with an Arctic Fox or similar slide in camper. I’ve owned a couple of Truck Camper rigs and hence can speak knowledgeably to this option.
-Perhaps most notably, the Tiger is a dedicated rig whereas a truck camper serves both as a truck and when needed a camper. If you have use for a pickup truck the later may be worth considering.
- the Tiger is considerably more expensive than a pickup camper rig. A 4x4, one ton truck, we’ll optioned, would cost around $70,000 and a nicer camper between $30,000 and $40,000. So, at $100,000 to $110,000, the truck camper option would cost considerably less than the Tiger
- Both the Tiger and truck camper are considerably smaller and less accessible (more stairs outside and inside) than a motorhome. That said, the Tiger’s entry is a bit lower to the ground than the “landing” of a truck camper (imagine five or six stairs leading from the ground up to the landing of a typical truck camper and then another one or two to enter the coach). The reason for this is that the truck camper sits in the bed of the truck and most truck beds are three feet or so off the ground. This consideration (accessibility) was the main reason we sold our truck camper and bought our first Lazy Daze (we’re now on our second).
- Truck campers seem to be more readily available than the Tiger. And, Northwoods, a long standing, quality independent manufacturer, may have more staying power in the current climate than a boutique manufacturer like Tiger.
- Weight and handling: Truck campers are heavy and, even with suspension modification (Torque Lift for example), these pickup-camper rigs don’t handle terribly well (subject to roll and porpoising). Perhaps the Tiger would handle better being built on a 1.5 ton chassis? We’re I considering this option I would seek to test drive one to test handling.
Good luck to you and keep us appraised of your findings!
Warren
Due to the closure of the LD Mothership, the Tiger Adventure Vehicles Provan Bengal has become the new plan B.
The F450 instead of the E450 is very appealing. Since this group is not afraid of giving their opinion, I welcome any comments.
If you actually plan on using your RV offroad, the F450 has advantages.
-Better ride due to the longer wheelbase.
-Available Powerstroke diesel, something would definitely want.
-The coach is narrower than a LD, allow better access through trails
-Wide range of available options in the cab and chassis from the manufacturer and the aftermarket, including a wide variety suspension upgrades. The coach is better equipped than a LD, including an upgraded electrical system.
-Available with single-wheel rear axles. This allows using much wider wheels and tires that allow running at reduced tire pressure when operating on rough roads, it really make a difference in ride comfort.
Our E450s are stuck with the narrow rear dual tires and there isn't a solution to smoothing out dirt roads with bigger tires. The small tires limit the use of 4X4 conversions. Driving on rough roads is not a pleasant experience in the LD.
Disadvantages
-It's less maneuverable than a T/K due to a longer wheelbase.
-The Bengal has about half the fresh water holding tanks of an LD, limiting time spent in the backcountry
-The coach is more cramped, due to being narrower and having smaller windows than an LD. The narrowness is a plus for backroads.
The Bengal has a modern look and is better equipped than an LD and is primarily designed for backroad travel.
You might be surprised where a short LD can be taken, especially after a quick survey of the road with our Jeep. The dual rear tires provide better than expected
While there are places I would like to take our LD but realize we can explore so much more by getting the LD in as far as practical and using the Jeep for day trips to explore even more remote and rough roads. For us, it's the perfect combination.
The Bengal does have the option of pulling a small Jeep or another offroad toy, such as a Razor for deeper exploration.
If ordering a Bengal, I would consider not having a pass-thru from the cab into the coach. This would eliminate having to listen to the nosey racket of everything rattling in the coach, it is very annoying.
On such an expensive vehicle, I would hate to see the scratches that will occur if actually used on narrow trails, sometimes known as "desert pinstriping?
Every vehicle and RV has advantages and disadvantages, none are perfect.
Larry
“We bought a Coach House motorhome a few years ago. They are a Class B about 24-25 feet, and are either on a Mercedes or a Ford. They are a very high quality RV made from top of the line parts...“
Class B or C? High quality, to be sure. We considered a Coach House and Born Free (no longer in business) prior to buying our first Lazy Daze. We easily selected Lazy Daze for the following reasons: 1) Lazy Daze are of comparable build quality, 2) at the time, Lazy Daze pricing was ~$100k versus over $150k for a Coach House or Born Free, and 3) of the three, Lazy Daze has a bright, open interior with picture windows that bring the outdoors in.
Here is Coach House’s website. Pricing has continued to increase...
Home - Coach House | Luxury Class B-Plus Motorhomes (https://www.coachhouserv.com/)
Warren
Love Lazy Daze but I would rank Coach House above them for a lot of reasons. Everything they use in the coaches is top tier and boy do you pay for it. My 4 favs are Lazy Daze, Coach House, Born Free and Bigfoot...too bad only one of these quality coaches is still made. Crazy how the junk stays in business...
“Crazy how the junk stays in business...” Cheap and easy seems to catch the worm. Some of us are a little more discerning.
Kent
Crazy how the junk stays in business...
Volume gets the chassis, says nothing about build quality, just slap them together and move on.
“Crazy how the junk stays in business...” Cheap and easy seems to catch the worm. Some of us are a little more discerning.
People want to get into RVing on the cheap and are not doing their homework before becoming dazzled by bright, shiny things, what Joan calls "having stars in their eyes". This applies to buying both new and used RVs.
RVing in a dependable RV isn't cheap but it takes a while for most of us to realize it.
Larry
"I would rank Coach House above [LD]for a lot of reasons."
Appearance is everything and Coach House, to me, looks like an amputee, somehow handicapped. Where's the cab-over section? ::) :'(
People want to get into RVing on the cheap and are not doing their homework before becoming dazzled by bright, shiny things, what Joan calls "having stars in their eyes". This applies to buying both new and used RVs.
RVing in a dependable RV isn't cheap but it takes a while for most of us to realize it.
Larry
By the time we had our 3rd, I finally figured it out!! Slower than most I guess 😂🤷♂️
Friends of ours have a coach house on an E450 chassis. It is well appointed, but when you go inside, it is like going into a cave with the rounded off ceiling corners and lack of windows. He offered to trade for our Lazy Daze and we turned him down.
Friends of ours have a coach house on an E450 chassis. It is well appointed, but when you go inside, it is like going into a cave with the rounded off ceiling corners and lack of windows. He offered to trade for our Lazy Daze and we turned him down.
The quality, the window views, the price, and the overall design made LD the best class C. However, the LDs are no longer manufactured because of Covid (and perhaps other reasons). Since 2017, my wife and I have been researching and looking at RVs. We discovered Lazy Daze and were on the waiting list for almost three years.
Crazy how the junk stays in business...
An American thing I'm afraid. Witness Walmark and other large box stores. We (USAains) love cheap. We price shop rather than quality shop.
glen
Wondering if the Cheap Junk vs. Quality (LD, Coach House) dichotomy is just a classic case of RVs being viewed as a commodity vs. a luxury purchase comparison. There’s buyers who likely think price should be directly related to rig size and number of features with build quality being secondary while the other camp prioritizes the opposite things.
If ordering a Bengal, I would consider not having a pass-thru from the cab into the coach. This would eliminate having to listen to the nosey racket of everything rattling in the coach, it is very annoying.
I understand the annoying rattling will be an issue, but I would prefer to have the pass-thru from the cab into the coach for safety reasons. If there is an issue, a person can move directly from their bed into the driver's seat.
The Knowledge it takes to be able to spot a quality build as opposed to a quick 'slap it together' motorhome isn't something a newbie would recognize. It took my parents a few rigs to settle down with Born Free. I had an older camper (late '60's), and a Lindy copy of my LD 'TK floor plan, before I ordered from LD. Until then I'd go to the local RV shows (free) in downtown San Diego. The conditions of 'new' rigs, and older used rigs was astoundingly bad. The oldest ones that were still in good shape were Lazy Dazes. The 'mauve' interiors were memorable, but discounting the color, were still remarkably well thought out and presentable.
Renting one not a Lazy Daze, 26', with friends for a two week trip, taught me a lot about what not to get! RonB
Here is a link to a new Class B+ motorhome. This company is an offshoot from Phoenix Cruiser. The former salesperson, Earl, and many employees of Phoenix Cruiser decided to start their own company. It is factory direct purchase. Could be another alternative for LD wanabees.
Home • Hoosier Custom Cruiser RV (https://hoosiercruiserrv.com/dreams/)
Ron
I understand the annoying rattling will be an issue, but I would prefer to have the pass-thru from the cab into the coach for safety reasons. If there is an issue, a person can move directly from their bed into the driver's seat.
Good point, I wonder if a sound-reducing door could be made? I'm not joking about the noise, it can be intense of bad roads.
Larry
Here is a link to a new Class B+ motorhome. This company is an offshoot from Phoenix Cruiser. The former salesperson, Earl, and many employees of Phoenix Cruiser decided to start their own company. It is factory direct purchase. Could be another alternative for LD wanabees.
Home • Hoosier Custom Cruiser RV (https://hoosiercruiserrv.com/dreams/)
Ron
Everything but the kitchen sink . . . I don't see one. ???
Virtual hugs,
Judie
Everything but the kitchen sink . . . I don't see one. ???
Virtual hugs,
Judie
Good eye Judie… If I were to guess, I’d say it’s probably at an angle next to the range. Similar to all LD models sink placement except for the RB.
- John
Everything but the kitchen sink . . . I don't see one. ???
The kitchen sink is not shown on the floorplan, it's located next to the stove.
Larry
The kitchen sink is not shown on the floorplan, it's located next to the stove.
Larry
I presumed it to be next to the stove, and someone forgot to draw it in. But I couldn't help myself with the attempt at humor! ;->
Virtual hugs,
Judie
That RV has some interesting features and appears to be a better built RV. Btw, here’s the kitchen sink.
Here is a link to a new Class B+ motorhome.
Home • Hoosier Custom Cruiser RV (https://hoosiercruiserrv.com/dreams/)
Maybe I'm just cranky this morning, but their "Class B+" RV has no relation to a Class B motorhome. I'd call it a "Class C-" instead. Not that there's anything wrong with being a "Class C-" :^)
Renting one 26' with friends, for a two week trip taught me a lot about what not to get! RonB
"Rent to avoid" VS "Rent to own" ? :)
Joel
Hi Joel; Things I encountered in the rental, in this case a Tioga, were to be avoided in something I was going to buy. The rental was cheaply built. Really flimsy paneling. Wasted space behind panels that could have been made into usable space. An empty area over the refrigerator in case you opted to pay more for a bigger 'fridge. But was left with panel in front of it, (in case you didn't spring for a bigger 'fridge) that could have been an interior compartment, if finished off with floor and a door with hinges That sort of thing..
It was a private owner renting this to us. It only had one 12v, size 24 battery. It could barely make it through one night of boondocking. Didn't run the heater, it was July. Used campgrounds for showers. Dumped almost daily except for a few 'without hookups' days. The rig was 3-4 years old, and only had about 30k miles. RonB