Hello - we visited the Factory last February and are on "the list". We have also visited Winkler Manitoba and toured the Leisure Travel Van factory. Been to the closest Airstream dealer in Minneapolis - a half dozen times. We keep coming back to the realization that we love Lazy Daze.
When we visited the California factory we reviewed the 27' mid bath. It was wonderful to be able to simply be in the unit and "pretend" to use it. However, we feel the 27' rear bath or even better yet, the 31' Twin might be the best. Is there anyone in the upper Midwest who has a 31' we could view? We were told we could probably view the 27' rear bath when we visit the factory again this January...
We like the idea of a made-up bed and I like to go to bed earlier than my wife. We are planning on retirement in 5-7 years from now.
Looking for advice or a possible review of a privately owned 31' in our area - Fargo North Dakota. Within the 3-4 state area...
Thank you - Jay
"We like the idea of a made-up bed and I like to go to bed earlier than my wife. We are planning on retirement in 5-7 years from now. "
We had a TK for ten years, and now have had an RB for nearly as long - with a 40-footer in between for eight years. Each of these floorplans was perfect for the time that we bought it. But our physical circumstances have changed, and at this very moment, I would give my eye teeth to have a 31-foot Twin Bed model in place of our RB.
If you can project into the future (if you can, please share your method!) what your circumstances might be when you are using the rig more of the time, the longer model might be the floorplan you choose. On the other hand, if you want/need a shorter rig for an interim time, you might want to use what is good for you now, and make an adjustment if/when the time comes.
I can tell you for sure that alternating bedtime/arising schedules can be dicey, and the better you are prepared to deal with that in a manner suitable for both of you, the happier everyone will be.
This is a very individual thing. Sometimes these things hinge on accommodations for pets, so there is no one-size-fits-all answer.
Virtual hugs,
Judie
Thank you Judie - I appreciate your most welcome comments. Well.. we reaffirmed our wanting a separate bedroom area from living area on Sunday. We both woke up early on and enjoyed our living room and drinking coffee in our living room furniture...not worrying about making up the bed until later (later being right before the CBS Sunday Morning News Program at 8:00 a.m.) We have always made the bed in the morning before breakfast and off to work (we have always traveled to work together for almost 30 years now..working in Downtown Fargo - me at the Bank and Shari at City Hall). Later that day we had a quiet evening reading in the living room and listening to Minnesota Public Radio - Classical. When we were tired we were able to go to our bed. So translating this to being in a Lazy Daze motorhome...we would enjoy the separate bedroom from living room for our lifestyle. Not having to "make-up" our sleeping arrangements at the end of the day. Since the time before our retirement will not be that long... and hopefully in the future we will be able to spend more than a day or two in the motorhome - the separate bedroom of the 31' Twin will be a wise choice.
I'm wondering if the "driving" difference between a 27' and 31' will be that much...?
Oh and Judie - we don't have pets and since we don't have any children we probably will never have any overnight guests with us in the coach.
Thank you Judie - I appreciate your most welcome comments. Well.. we reaffirmed our wanting a separate bedroom area from living area on Sunday. We both woke up early on and enjoyed our living room and drinking coffee in our living room furniture...not worrying about making up the bed until later (later being right before the CBS Sunday Morning News Program at 8:00 a.m.) We have always made the bed in the morning before breakfast and off to work (we have always traveled to work together for almost 30 years now..working in Downtown Fargo - me at the Bank and Shari at City Hall). Later that day we had a quiet evening reading in the living room and listening to Minnesota Public Radio - Classical. When we were tired we were able to go to our bed. So translating this to being in a Lazy Daze motorhome...we would enjoy the separate bedroom from living room for our lifestyle. Not having to "make-up" our sleeping arrangements at the end of the day. Since the time before our retirement will not be that long... and hopefully in the future we will be able to spend more than a day or two in the motorhome - the separate bedroom of the 31' Twin will be a wise choice.
I'm wondering if the "driving" difference between a 27' and 31' will be that much...?
The driving difference between 27' and 31' is not much, the difference being the need for being more careful when turning because of the longer rear section. One gets used to it. We have an '02 31' and enjoy having the fixed bed replete with Sleep Number mattress. My wife sleeps later than me, so being able to close off the bedroom in the morning is a plus. Were we to get another 31', I would get a TB. We are used to a king bed at home and find the smaller LD queen a little tight for us. Altho we have the pullout dinette option, I would get barrel chairs in new 31'. I miss having a chair/lounger to sit in.
Chris
Hi Jay and Shari,
My DW and I seldom hit the hay at the same time as my work schedule is more 9 to 5 and her work hours vary week to week.
This translates to our travel time in the RB as well. I generally stir early and enjoy a cup of coffee at the dinette or outside welcoming the day. Meanwhile she snoozes blissfully unaware of my activities .
The twin couches are set up for dual purpose daily use. Daytime lounging and night time slumber. A few quick moves in the morning and they are ready for chatting with friends over a nice cup of coffee. No one is the wiser. But that's just us.
In the past, we had a 27' TT with a rear bedroom. Ok at night but for us a waste of space during the day. The bed certainly never got used as a gathering center. It just sat there taking up space. But that's just us.
The RB, for us, is the perfect compromise. Open, spacious, and with a little effort peaceful enough for a loving couple to share and give each other their own space morning or night.
I certainly hope you have the opportunity to visit as many LD floor plans as possible before you shell out the bucks for your dream LD. We got ours, but that's just us.
Kent
The overcab bed is a static bedroom - if you want it to be. For us it was perfect because I slept up there, and DH, because of his bone problems, slept in a La Fuma chair between the sofa and the chairs. It was something of a challenge for me to get down in the middle of the night without stepping on his head, but usually I just sproinged across the sofa - which stays in its normal state.
As the years passed, I was having a fair amount of trouble sproinging anywhere, let alone in the middle of the night, and problems came up. I still would rather have a separate bedroom, but my motivating problems seem to be lessening lately, so maybe in a few months, I will be more limber and able to whiz up and down that ladder with my former alacrity. That being the case, then the RB is a super wonderful floorplan because it is so open.
Virtual hugs,
Judie
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We have been full timing in a 30' IB now for almost 9 years. Yeah, I can't believe that. Anyway, we knew we didn't want to make up a couch nor climb into an overhead and we remain happy with our choice. I wish we didn't have to watch the weight so closely but it hasn't been a huge issue for us.
I keep lusting after something bigger but the size and windows keep us here.
We like the MB and the RB but they just wouldn't work for us.
Gayle is generally up before me and shuts off the bedroom. I like to read in bed so in our view the permanent bed is anything but a waste.
Also, friends who have a MB have commented on how spacious ours seems.
Jim
We like the MB and the RB but they just wouldn't work for us. Gayle is generally up before me and shuts off the bedroom. I like to read in bed so in our view the permanent bed is anything but a waste. Also, friends who have a MB have commented on how spacious ours seems.
As many LDOs have said more than once, every RV made by Lazy Daze has a basket full of happy owners. Some floor plans and lengths are more popular than others. At the end of the day, Owners happily tucked away in a LD just perfect for them.
And so it goes.
A prime requirement for me is a fixed bed. Making up beds at night is the last thing I want to do.
The bunk has served us well for over twenty years but it probably will not always be that way.
If you want a real bed, a 31' LD is your choice. You will get used to any length, with time.
A MB will work but to have a full size, pulled together bed is a lot of work and never will be as comfortable as a fixed bed, with a one-piece mattress. Sleeping bags are OK, sheets and blankets are even better and allow for seasonal variation.
Some couples sleep apart, others like to sleep together. You sound like the second type.
Do be aware that 31' foot models have limited CCC, you can't take it all with you, even if there is plenty of empty room.
Larry
Appreciate the comments and good advice. It helps a person gain confidence in decision making.
Right-away we will use our coach for visiting state parks in Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota. After retirement, maybe we will travel farther and for longer periods of time - especially maybe farther during the long cold winter months. I'm thinking that how you "live" at home is how you live in your RV. Again Judie - it is difficult to know what the future will bring.
We found it interesting that the Airstream dealer told us that over 50% of their sales of trailers equipped with a bedroom area were twin-sized beds. This was due to the fact that folks were used to king size beds - didn't want to go to a queen and also the twin beds are used during the day as a separate lounge area. We seemed to like a 28' Airstream - so even at a 31' Lazy Daze twin, we would be shorter overall than a travel trailer and tow vehicle. I told Shari "last time I remember towing a trailer for any amount of time, it was a manure spreader"
My mom and dad had a Winnebego Indian Travel Trailer in the mid 70's and I remember my dad saying that towing it with our 1973 Ford LTD Brougham was "like having a tin can tied to my tail"...
We purchased 31 foot new in 07 and have never regretted it for one moment. 50,000 miles, lived in it for months at a time,
live in San Marcos, CA. have traveled to key West Florida, Nova Scotia, Alaska and parts in between.
Enjoy
Bob Wilson
We seemed to like a 28' Airstream - so even at a 31' Lazy Daze twin, we would be shorter overall than a travel trailer and tow vehicle. I told Shari "last time I remember towing a trailer for any amount of time, it was a manure spreader"
Of course, if you travel for any amount of time you are likely going to want to tow a car behind. I haven't ever measured but when hooked up I'm sure we are well over 40' long.
Jim
Hi Jay. We have a MB so there is not much for me to add about the 31 footers. But, if you are interested in seeing other LDs, give some thought to going to a regional LD rally. For example, the North East group will be meeting on Cape Cod in September. Other groups, especially on the west coast, have gatherings nearly monthly. Most of the LDOs welcome wannabes who want to tour rigs and ask questions. We have had folks in and out of our rig measuring cabinet space and storage areas. Good luck with your decision.
Thank you so very much for your kind invitation - rm2011ldmb!
This Jan-Feb we plan on visiting my boss who winters for eight weeks in Palm Desert California. While there we will plan a trip to the "mothership" and view whatever models they have in production for us to view. In talking to Todd Miller - it sounds like there are no other 31' in production prior to where we are on the list. He stated that there will be 27' rear baths available to review in Jan-Feb - when we are currently planning a visit to California.
We are so far away from everything here in North Dakota!
Hi, Jay & Shari--
RE: "We are so far away from everything here in North Dakota!" I feel the same way here in north Missouri!
It's not "upper midwest," but it is closer than California--I have a 31' TB that I would be glad to let you explore/sit/lie down in--just give a holler if you're coming this way (I-35 is only about 40 minutes west of me).
I chose the TB because I, too, wanted a dedicated bed that didn't need re-arranging into a sofa & I did not want to climb into a cabover (though I'm short, I remember a sense of claustrophobia sleeping up there with my sister--who is a *Sheri*--in a rented SOB during college). My folks had a Pace Arrow with an almost identical floor plan to my TB, because they had a king bed in the stix house & just felt cramped in anything smaller. For me, the TB has made it more comfortable when I've had my aunt or another traveling companion. Ldy Lulubelle's previous family replaced the factory cabinet between the beds with a removable custom table because they added about 6" extensions (supported by shelf brackets) along the length of each TB (it does make for a narrow pass between the TBs & I've banged my knees a few times) & replaced the factory mattresses with wonderfully comfortable temperature foam mattresses they got at Costco.
Happy hunting!
Lynne
Now I'm wondering about the toilet in the 31' - I wish it was on the "floor" like the 27' rear bath...
Always something..
Ohh but the shower in a 31! Huge with a window for circulation. My wife was really impressed with quality of the inside and she usually is indifferent. We found a used one but couldn't get past the barrel chairs.
Ron
Now I'm wondering about the toilet in the 31' - I wish it was on the "floor" like the 27' rear bath...
Always something..
Here ya go, Jay: EZ GO™ | New & Seasonal - New Arrivals! | FreshFinds.com (https://www.freshfinds.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/categoryID/114B4CF5-F6B1-4104-B512-B6696EF1470A/productID/17BB685A-285A-43A4-A71D-F260E240D836)
Chris
:D "Build a better mouse trap..." ;) ;D
Now I'm wondering about the toilet in the 31' - I wish it was on the "floor" like the 27' rear bath...
Always something..
Jay--
I'm in vertical shrink mode (so excited in 9th grade PE to be measured at 5' 1 3/4"--taller than my Little Red-headed Momma who was only 5'); during a recent DR visit I learned I'm back down to 5'. I can reach the toilet with no problem, though at the rate I'm going, the older I get the more sense Chris's EZ GO makes (& I could use it for the kitchen cabinets, too) ;D
Lynne
Lynn - thank you - Mrs. K is 5' 1"...
I always say "Shari is average for her height" ...as one of my quips..
It is just that the toilet looks more "normal" on the floor vs. on a platform (in my opinion) as we were looking at Airstreams the models with the toilets on the floor looked nicer to me for some reason. I was just enamored by the 28 International Serenity Twin.
Lynn - thank you - Mrs. K is 5' 1"...
I always say "Shari is average for her height" ...as one of my quips..
It is just that the toilet looks more "normal" on the floor vs. on a platform (in my opinion) as we were looking at Airstreams the models with the toilets on the floor looked nicer to me for some reason. I was just enamored by the 28 International Serenity Twin.
Hey, Jay would you (and Greg) mind moseying over to your forum profile and rejiggering your profile photo. We'd like to see you and Shari "upright". :)
Chris
Chris,
Interestingly enough both member Avatar photos appear correctly positioned on my iPhone.
Very interesting.
Kent
In reference to table sitting, our 2007, 31 foot bought new, we chose the 2 swivel barrel chairs. In our opinion, besides being
comfortable, they provide the most room in that area. Ours still function like new, still original upholstery which looks
and feels like new. Others may disagree, but that is why we all have choices.
Hey, Jay would you (and Greg) mind moseying over to your forum profile and rejiggering your profile photo. We'd like to see you and Shari "upright". :)
Chris
Chris, every since I've added this particular photo it keeps rotating for some reason, at least on my devices. I'll go ahead and replace it.
Edit: replaced
That right Bob we all have choices in life and LD layouts. I prefer to do things at the dinette in our 30' IB. I.e. Computer work, reading, drawing, mapping out new routes etc. 🚐😁
Chris, every since I've added this particular photo it keeps rotating for some reason, at least on my devices. I'll go ahead and replace it.
Edit: replaced
Thanks, Greg. I have had the "rotating" problem before and never have been able to figure it out. Maybe a photo buff on this forum and educate us.
Chris
Hello - we visited the Factory last February and are on "the list". We have also visited Winkler Manitoba and toured the Leisure Travel Van factory. Been to the closest Airstream dealer in Minneapolis - a half dozen times. We keep coming back to the realization that we love Lazy Daze.
When we visited the California factory we reviewed the 27' mid bath. It was wonderful to be able to simply be in the unit and "pretend" to use it. However, we feel the 27' rear bath or even better yet, the 31' Twin might be the best. Is there anyone in the upper Midwest who has a 31' we could view? We were told we could probably view the 27' rear bath when we visit the factory again this January...
We like the idea of a made-up bed and I like to go to bed earlier than my wife. We are planning on retirement in 5-7 years from now.
Looking for advice or a possible review of a privately owned 31' in our area - Fargo North Dakota. Within the 3-4 state area...
Thank you - Jay
Jay,
You private messaged me back in April so I've told you my experience with LDs. I have has a couple Mid-Bath models, a Rear-Bath and now the 31 Twin Bed. We are in Northwest Illinois near Moline,Illinois if you get over this way.
Jeff
"Thanks, Greg. I have had the "rotating" problem before and never have been able to figure it out. Maybe a photo buff on this forum and educate us."
I don't qualify as a photo buff, but can relate that I see this phenomenon within the telephone on occasion. It seems to happen when the scene looks one way to the software, as opposed to how the picture clicker sees it. I've taken a photo in landscape mode that happened to have some vertical object in it, and the camera would make it portrait mode unbidden. I tried yelling at it, but . . .
My solution has been to take it into Photoshop (or whatever you use), and do the rotating and saving there. Then you can use it for the original purpose . . . probably !!! ;->
Virtual hugs,
Judie <-- Sierra Vista, Arizona
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I will just put my Bank photo for my profile...
I'll find a better one of me and Shari...and maybe it won't go round -n- round...
I will just put my Bank photo for my profile...
I'll find a better one of me and Shari...and maybe it won't go round -n- round...
Lookin' good, Jay.
Chris
Thank you Chris.
Mrs. K posed the question to me over our Saturday morning coffee "Do you think anyone has had difficulties with a 31' at state or national park campgrounds"? ... "Would a 27" be much, much better than a 31' for campgrounds"?
As stated earlier - our thought for the next years prior to retirement would be visiting state parks in North Dakota, South Dakota and Minnesota...
Jay, I've noticed in my limited travels that frequently the cut-off for many public campgrounds is around 27-28 ft. Yes, you can certainly find sites to accommodate longer RV's but the choices are limited.
Perhaps others with more experience will speak up?
We travel in a 27' MB. Mostly we use state and federal CGs. We find the cutoff is around 25'. We have had issues only once that I can recalling in hundreds of nights. But in some I would not want to go any bigger.
The overhang behind the axle saves us by running the rear end out over the bumpers on the back end of the sites that are 25' or less. When we travel we log all the sites in camps that we like, and pace them off to see if we could fit. Rarely, but sometimes there is an obstruction like boulders that prevent this. We found Joshua Tree to be one such place. Boulders border the sites. Trees sometimes do too. And in a few spots overhanging trees keep us out, but these are usually noted.
The rangers, hosts and reservation people can't tell us whether a particular site is measured up to the bumpers, or if ours will actually fit. What we find on the ground is usually, but not always, at variance with what is listed. On some of the forest roads in the mountains I would not want the extra 3' overhang as the turns are rather acute.
Just to "stir the pot" some, I wonder if the 27-28 ft might be for a travel trailer being pulled by a car/pu? If so, the site may be 50-55 ft deep. Although it might not be very level the whole depth. It would be nice if all campgrounds would state the actual length of their sites. Just a thought.
Dave & Sandy
2014 MB
In reference to table sitting, our 2007, 31 foot bought new, we chose the 2 swivel barrel chairs. In our opinion, besides being
comfortable, they provide the most room in that area. Ours still function like new, still original upholstery which looks
and feels like new. Others may disagree, but that is why we all have choices.
Our 2011 31 TB also has the barrel chairs. I think they look kinda goofy but I actually love the darn things. We sit at the table fully retracted when we are just hanging out. When we eat we extend it. We have the big extension that allows people sitting on the sofa to use it too but have not had a need to set that up. I love the 31TB!
Just as Paul said: YMMV!
I've been on the road since Oct 2004 with my 30'IB, utilizing mostly USFS and State Park facilities. Only once was I questioned about the length of the coach and after telling a fib found there were any number of sites in that State Park into which I could (and did) fit, regardless of their stated length limits. ;D
" I would not want the extra 3' overhang as the turns are rather acute."
I have crossed ALL of the mountain passes in the Sierra with the exception of Sonora (Hwy 108) and I am quite familiar with it, yet would not attempt to cross it with my 30'IB.
I have also crossed many other passes around the country, in Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, etc. without a problem. :)
Thank you Chris.
Mrs. K posed the question to me over our Saturday morning coffee "Do you think anyone has had difficulties with a 31' at state or national park campgrounds"? ... "Would a 27" be much, much better than a 31' for campgrounds"?
As stated earlier - our thought for the next years prior to retirement would be visiting state parks in North Dakota, South Dakota and Minnesota...
After nearly 9 years full timing and camping primarily in USFS, national, state and local parks I can't recall having much of an issue with length. I recall at Big Bend NP they don't want you driving anything longer than 26' up to Chisos Basin, although the camp host there had something bigger. They had few large sites but their primary concern was the switchbacks driving up.
We never visited Chiricahua National Monument because a friend with a 26' LD who had been there thought we might have a problem with the overhang and the dips in the road driving in. Other than these two instances I can't recall site size stopping us relative to the 26' or 27'.
In many of the places we have seen with shorter sites we probably could not have gotten level in them.
As Paul indicated often the sites aren't measured taking into consideration the overhang.
Jim
Thank you all for the good and kind counsel.
For discussion, with the current plan to use our motorhome for weekend trips close to home an the idea of spending a winter month or two in Arizona or Texas after retirement, may I ask the following?
If you care to look at my factory option outline (attached in my initial post), what options or additional equipment should be included?
We will be storing the coach in a heated garage adjacent to the home place.
Is any satellite tv equipment a good thing to install? We have never had cable or satellite tv. We use a roof top antenna for the local channels at home.
Are automatic levellers a good thing to add? We don't pack heavy and live quite minimally.
Is holding tank insulation available from the factory? Fall camping in northern Minnesota is very pleasant.
Any suspension adds besides the optional shocks? North Dakota is very windy - and very flat...
We like all the exterior colors, but the gray silver seems modern and pleasing on a larger coach. Also the green interior seems restful.
I've started our spreadsheet, so when our "time" comes we will have thought it through. Planning and the ordering process of waiting is indeed part of the fun of any large purchase (I think).
Thank you.
Respectfully- Jay
Jay, my two cents on a couple of your questions. We bought a "floor model" 27 mid-bath, so we got what was already added to the rig, including a manual sat. dish. It has never moved from its resting position. I have found in most cases where we camp, I can pick up a signal either via the antenna or cable TV hook-up. Sometimes, the channels we pick up are not worth watching, so we might pop in a DVD. We bought a 12 volt DVD player at Walmart for a very reasonable price. However, we are not "big" TV watchers because usually when and where we travel, there are things to do outside of the rig. But, bad weather can strike sometimes, so the TV is a useful diversion.
With respect to leveling, we bought the "orange blocks" at Walmart, and use them as needed. We recognize that not all RVers want to do that, especially in the rain, but that is our choice (and part of the adventure!). The auto-levelers are heavy and something else that could go wrong or need repair. Some RVers, however, may have physical issues that may make the use of auto-levelers a necessary option.
Good luck with your new purchase.
We like all the exterior colors, but the gray silver seems modern and pleasing on a larger coach. Also the green interior seems restful.
Regarding colors, my understanding is that the gray is the most likely to fade over time, followed by red, then green.
Jay,
The waiting game is indeed part of the LD experience whether purchasing new or previously loved. But I venture that the anticipation of a new build with your chosen design features is a bit more exciting. We decided for a new build so hitting the high road would be far less problematic.
Options are always fun. While some on LDO have the powered levellers, this is not a factory option and can be added later if you find the need. Many times I have found that my home brewed levelling blocks or the risers sold at the Mothership do the job quite well. This past week in Big Bear required raising the drivers rear set a few inches. Quick and easy. However, this is not always the case. You will soon see if the added weight and expense of automatic levellers are your cup of tea.
We purchased the manual sat dish. Haven't used it yet, but it's there when we need it. Carrying a portable dish will take up valuable space in the coach and adding a dish later may be something you may not want to pursue.
I generally pack some blu-rays for movie night. I also have the Smart hub in my Sammy Blu-Ray player that works especially well when near wi-fi. Not so well using the Hot Spot.
The additional solar panel is important. The extra charge rate makes for a faster charge. We have never dipped our battery reserve into the danger zone.
We had the optional outdoor shower installed. It's right outside the coach door and comes in very handy. It's great for the cleanup of BBQ items, dirty feet (both human and K9) and any outdoor needs. It's an option I would not be without.
The battery cut off switch is a useful option. Inexpensive and invaluable at times. Others here may have opinions on its usefulness but for me it's placement just makes sense.
The insulated holding tanks may be more useful up North than down in So Cal. But heat wrap of the dump valves is a sound after market addition and something I will be adding prior to my next trip to Big Bear.
So many options to chose from. The Bilsten Shocks is something Todd talked me out of. His reasoning was "See how she rides, wear 'em out and the go with the Bilstens if you feel the need for a stiffer ride up front". We skipped them and the rig handles fine for me. Windy roads? I just slow down a bit.
I like the wooden dash and Ultra leather seats up front. A little splash of class to Fords plastic interior design. Not cheap, but hey neither was the LD.
I will be setting up some Sun Sails to cover the LD soon. No matter the colour choice, the So Cal sun can ruin a vehicles paint. I just hope Code Enforcement agrees with my plan.
The options list really isn't too long and some things can be added later. We had a great time picking and choosing our options. I love every addition. Our Lazy Daze was the best Christmas gift I ever put under the tree.
Have fun.
Kent
Thank you so very much for your kind invitation - rm2011ldmb!
This Jan-Feb we plan on visiting my boss who winters for eight weeks in Palm Desert California. While there we will plan a trip to the "mothership" and view whatever models they have in production for us to view. In talking to Todd Miller - it sounds like there are no other 31' in production prior to where we are on the list. He stated that there will be 27' rear baths available to review in Jan-Feb - when we are currently planning a visit to California.
We are so far away from everything here in North Dakota!
The SoCal Caravan Club has outings in both January and February, with 30-60 rigs attending. Interested folks are always welcome to tour coaches, and just about all models are represented. Check the website for next year's schedule (not yet posted) for dates and locations. LazyDaze Caravan Club.org. (Auto correct added some spaces and caps) -- Jon
We bought a used 2006 30 IB with 8200 miles on it for 1/2 price of a new one without a year wait. Had a 20 footer as our first LD and loved it but really enjoy the "go to the rear for a nap or sleep without the climb up" now that I am retired. Gets the same mileage and is a breeze to drive. Only complaint is the fewer campsites that we can get, but working through those issues. We have had 5 sleeping in it but it is really only made for 3-4, with only 3 seatbelts. Yes, our newer 50th anniversary upgrade is fantastic.
Our previous LD was the RB and we LOVED the windows! And there were times that we put a table between the two couches and had 8 people eating dinner when the weather turned too cold to sit outside. And then every evening we had to make the bed which included a foam topper. As much as we loved the day time use, the evening and morning ritual became a pain.
So now, we have a 31 with the bed in the back and I wouldn’t trade it for any other rig in the world. We did replace the mattress with memory foam and sleep very well. I truly appreciate the separation in the morning when I want to get up and no disturb my spouse.
Have fun searching and best of luck. I am in South Orange County, CA if you are ever in the area.
Happy Trails,
Jules
Jules -thank you (and my wife loves the anniversary paint colors)...
Back to thinking again,
Is the Entertainment Center a nice addition to a 27'? Do folks with a 31' enjoy the larger, centrally located television in their Entertainment Center?
We don’t sleep in the over cab but find it very useful in our 04 RK as it is a repository of all things bulky but not particularly heavy. With the need to make up the king bed each night on the pulled together couches, where else would we store a king travasak, pillows and king memory foam pad? Again, there is more up there like our suitcase solar panel, spare water pump, shorty telescope and tripod, fan, and a few other things.
As stated above by others we put up with making and unmaking the bed for 13 years but are now looking at a move to a rig with a permanent bed. Hey, i’m 13 years older and all that climbing around and pulling things down is harder now at 59 than it was at 46!!! 😂
Back to thinking again,
Is the Entertainment Center a nice addition to a 27'? Do folks with a 31' enjoy the larger, centrally located television in their Entertainment Center?
Hi Jay,
The resale will hurt on a 27' with entertainment center.
How about enjoying some family time by the fire or under the awning.....no television?
Just me, Paul
Jay,
A quick search on LDO under “Entertainment Center” shows a typical question...”Can the Entertainment Center be removed”? I asked the same question of Todd.
In a previous life, we had a very small Class C-a Sunrader on a Toyota chassis. With two kids in tow it was a good place for them to sleep. In our RB (sans the E Center) the overhead serves that function as well as “soft” storage.
The way I see it is that if people didn’t want the E Center, LD wouldn’t offer it. It serves its purpose for those who want it. I’m not sure how many are out there but there are enough for that pesky question to show up now and again...Can it...can I...???
Again, they still offer them so they must be selling. And as far as resell of our LD...I’ll be long gone before mine gets sold. It’ll find a nice place in my “Relics from the past” collection when I’m older and grayer.
Just sayin’
Kent
Back to thinking again,
Is the Entertainment Center a nice addition to a 27'? Do folks with a 31' enjoy the larger, centrally located television in their Entertainment Center?
We have the 30' IB. We don't watch a lot of TV but when we do I wish we had a larger one. The one we have now is 26" and we are quite happy with the center.
Jim
We rarely watch TV. I mostly use the TV as a monitor for a raspberry pi computer for tracking aircraft.
Else times it makes an attractive cover for all that light-weight storage behind.
YMMV
Joel
2013 31 IB 'Orwan'