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Title: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Chris Horst on November 20, 2016, 03:30:39 pm
About 3 weeks ago when I winterized our LD, I changed the 9V battery on the water detection alarm on the floor by the water pump. I placed the old battery on the ledge by the bedroom TV shelf. Visiting the LD yesterday, I noticed a collection of stuff which I thought at first glance was from a mouse nest. Then I saw the battery on the floor. It was then obvious that the battery had exploded, something I've never experienced before. The battery was at least 6-7 years old but did not show signs of deterioration when I removed it. To you techies out there in LD land, what could have cause this explosion? Could this have caused a fire? Temps have ranged from 80* to 20* in the past 3 weeks.

Chris
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Joan on November 20, 2016, 04:05:00 pm
Chris,  I've never experienced an alkaline battery explosion (it was an alkaline and not a lithium ion battery, right?), but maybe this article will help?

13 Investigates exploding alkaline batteries - 13 WTHR Indianapolis (http://www.wthr.com/article/13-investigates-exploding-alkaline-batteries)

Joan
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Larry W on November 20, 2016, 04:51:08 pm
Looking closely at the photo, it appears there was a small fire. The bottom of the door looks burnt and their is what looks to be a trim piece sagging, under the door.
I have no idea why, wonder if the freeze/thaw cycling might have something to do with it?
Batteries store a lot of energy, in a small volume, so when they short out, fires and explosions can happen.

Larry
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Chris Horst on November 20, 2016, 06:10:31 pm
Looking closely at the photo, it appears there was a small fire. The bottom of the door looks burnt and their is what looks to be a trim piece sagging, under the door.
I have no idea why, wonder if the freeze/thaw cycling might have something to do with it?
Batteries store a lot of energy, in a small volume, so when they short out, fires and explosions can happen.

Larry
Fortunately, there was no fire. The photo does make it appear there could have been. Those are smudges and a streak from my dragging my fingers through the mess.

Chris
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Joan on November 21, 2016, 10:00:41 am
A comment on the battery disposal advice contained in the above-linked article: disposal of batteries (and a lot of other stuff) in household trash is not permitted in California. People might want to check "toxic waste" disposal laws in their local areas.

Wastes Banned From The Trash (http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/HomeHazWaste/Info/)

Joan
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Chris Horst on November 21, 2016, 10:23:49 am
Chris,  I've never experienced an alkaline battery explosion (it was an alkaline and not a lithium ion battery, right?), but maybe this article will help?

13 Investigates exploding alkaline batteries - 13 WTHR Indianapolis (http://www.wthr.com/article/13-investigates-exploding-alkaline-batteries)

Joan
Thanks, Joan. I wondered about that "trash" comment in the article. The article doesn't account for my experience so I will just write it off as one of Nature's Fireworks.
Chris
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Chris Horst on November 21, 2016, 10:24:07 am
Thanks, Joan. I wondered about that "trash" comment in the article. The article doesn't account for my experience so I will just write it off as one of Nature's Fireworks.

Chris
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Kent Heckethorn on November 21, 2016, 11:17:40 am
Yikes! I have, for quite some time now, been depositing my used Alkaline batteries in a plastic jug under the S&B's kitchen sink.

Time to make the move and get them the heck outta Dodge before they blow up my house.

Who knew?

Kent
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Lynne Broyles-Greenwood on November 23, 2016, 03:19:16 pm
Indeed, I throw mine in a plastic bag in a small crock on the kitchen floor to take to the toxic waste disposal day our city-owned utility company does 1-2 times per year...time for a better plan.  Chris, thanks for the alert & starting this important discussion.

Lynne
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: Ed & Margee on November 25, 2016, 08:49:25 pm
I don't think Chris is alone with this battery issue.  For example ...

13 Investigates exploding alkaline batteries - 13 WTHR Indianapolis (http://www.wthr.com/article/13-investigates-exploding-alkaline-batteries)

What Would Cause a 9-Volt Battery to Explode? (http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1969091,1969198)

And of course there's more of these kind of stories.
Title: Re: 9V Battery Explosion
Post by: rodneyhelfrich on November 27, 2016, 12:11:38 am
Yes,  I have heard of this before .  Tape the terminals upon removal from service.   Don't plug them together, that is an 18 volts short circuit.  I have seen one posting where a fire fighter's house burned down the day after the "Semi Annual Fire Detector  Battery Replacement Project; the cause  9 volt batteries shorted in the disposal bucket. 

After all there are 6 little fire crackers in the little square can.

Rod